Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Regardless of how bad you think you're messed up, created in his image. And you are Ephesians 2:10. You are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus. So I think it's important to always realize what is it. You may say some things about yourself, but what is it God says about you? Yeah. When you realize what God has said is that he has adopted you, that you're his child and thus we are.
And then when you look at Ephesians 2. 10 and you look at those things, you begin realize. Okay, I know I got some flaws, man. I'm so thankful that God loves me.
I think. Well, I love a Risa cup, but the stuff that they make like at holidays, like little hearts for Valentine's, the Christmas trees for Christmas, the ghosts for Halloween, you know, it's. It's a creamier. It's a creamier peanut butter. And I think the chocolate is a little bit softer.
Don't get me wrong.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: Just like a regular Reese though. Oh, look, those are best.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: They are a good candy.
You know what the number one selling candy chocolate though is?
Starts with a Gene Heart's kisses. Oh, yeah.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: Okay. I was talking. I thought you were talking about candy manufacturers.
[00:01:22] Speaker C: It's like Godava or G.
I would think.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: I would think her outdoes them, don't they?
[00:01:29] Speaker B: Well, it's high end chocolate.
[00:01:32] Speaker C: Maybe not. Maybe in volume, but not revenue.
Not been in revenue.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's some expensive chocolate.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Are y' all going anywhere?
[00:01:42] Speaker B: We went somewhere.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: No, don't say yesterday.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: No, Day before.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Okay. I thought you were going to say the youth banquet. I was like, come on, man.
It's a nice thing. But that's not a youth.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Went to Gold and then Wilson and came around.
[00:01:56] Speaker A: Oh, did you go to Whirly Gig?
[00:01:59] Speaker B: No. By Parker's? Yes. That's where we ended up.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Nothing says love like barbecue.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
To get pick up about 70 trees.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: Trees?
[00:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah, trees. 70.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Like what kind of trees?
Christmas trees. Valentine. Are you doing Valentine trees?
[00:02:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it was 500 red cedars, 100 rape, 10 red maples and 10 red oak.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Are you planting them in your yard?
[00:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: You don't have any place for them
[00:02:33] Speaker B: in your yard now? These are seedlings. That doesn't mean they're all going to go. I went to the 4th street department and paid $30 for it.
[00:02:41] Speaker C: Is there a possibility they would all go? Because if so, you got it forced.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Well, that'd be fine, but
[00:02:49] Speaker A: your yard
[00:02:49] Speaker B: is already trees down and now's the time I come out my driveway. There she is.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: But, I mean, your. Your yard is pretty woody to start with.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: It's going to be a park when I get through with it.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: You got something that doesn't have a root system so you can cut grass, right?
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah, Well, I.
I do have them running across the yard, but they're away from the house. But I do have some roots coming across. I'll just cut them with a saber saw.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:03:19] Speaker B: And pull them up.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Cut the roots so that are growing around.
And I keep the roots out of my silver tank.
[00:03:26] Speaker C: Yeah. It's a big thing.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: For real. You're not. Yeah. You wouldn't be on city water out there.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: No.
That is probably why we have so much land between.
[00:03:36] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Houses were on well water.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: Here. Around here.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Well, you're on well water, too, I would have thought.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: I don't have city water.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: I would have thought city water ran by on 42.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: No city water. Closest is probably Kennebec Road, I guess.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: And I thought I was in the country where I lived and we're on city water.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah. We're in.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: We're on.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: We're out there in the States.
[00:04:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:03] Speaker B: It takes 15 whole minutes to get there on a good day. Yeah. With no traffic.
I'm telling you, man, we're way out there.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: Well, part of that is the traffic. Even when there ain't traffic, you got more stoplights than you used to.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: I can remember. This is the honest truth. I can remember 42 from Canedo, which. That's where. Across 64. From Canedo to Fuqua, there was nobody on. No. I've had to hitchhike that road before, and I had to walk halfway.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:04:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: And it. But now you go on the clayton side of 42, and it's almost all the way to 95. That's. I mean, it's a whole another city over there.
And from Clayton, you could pass. From Clayton to Fuqua, you could pass anytime you wanted to. You can't even.
No way you can pass now.
And it's just I40 probably brought the traffic on 42.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: Agreed.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Everybody's going to, you know, I40. And of course now. Now you don't have to go to Raleigh to work. You can work in Fuqua.
[00:05:15] Speaker C: I was talking about the other day about how much it's grown, changed just the time that I've been here. I mean, it's you.
When I first moved here in 2008, nine, 10.
[00:05:27] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: But you bet, you're from Winston St. Alon, y', all, you know, probably experiencing a lot of growth. Over there too, Winston.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: Maybe not here, but it's them dashes, man. Well, the area that I'm from originally has probably. It's definitely gone the other direction because they've been there were. It was a lot of textiles and tobacco. Those two things hit hard.
So it's, it's, it's total opposite. But I was talking to somebody the day about how long it used to take me to go from the apex side of 55 to Holly Springs compared to now. And it's. I mean it's crazy.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: It's twice I can remember this is before highways got North Carolina.
[00:06:09] Speaker C: I can remember before we had highways.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: All the highways got the north. Yeah. Oh two lane highways. What was.
[00:06:16] Speaker A: Yeah, all you had, you didn't have me.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: And from Frisco which is where they're where the famous lighthouse is from there because you had to go up and over.
Would take me six and a half hours to get to Holly Springs which is where Powell Road, where the sheets is. That's where we lived off that road. Six and a half hours.
Once they put a four lane highway, I can do it under four easily.
And the only part I have a problem with is really to go from Raleigh or here to Columbia, North Carolina. Four line highway. It doesn't matter what time of the year you go, it's going to be the same.
But to go from Columbia to Frisco which is about 90 miles, that depends on traffic. How crowd the time of year. Time of the year. July 4th.
Wild. But so now that's the, that's the bottleneck.
And they probably want four lane highway because of governmental property that
[00:07:27] Speaker A: you just, you justify it for two months out the year.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
And so, but now, so I, I really like the four lane highway at that time but now I see the reverse of it because bigger highways, easier access brings a lot more people and you, you see it on all the roads. Now I can remember coming to Knightdale two lane but you see the traffic. Raleigh is hard to get to but it was, it wasn't so bad when they had a two lane highway but it was hard to get to. Now four lane it's hard to get to.
And 540 will bring that same traffic around down here.
[00:08:12] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: That was a mess in Fuqua yesterday. I don't know if y' all came through Fuqua about lunchtime but all the stoplights were out.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: Oh no.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: Up there around. Well from Jersey Mike's here all the way to Walmart.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: Electricity all the way.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Somebody had hit a pole or Something. They were down on Judd Parkway. The cops were out there trying to direct traffic. It was.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: I was just trying to get a sandwich before I had to run to a funeral. And I was like, ain't gonna be no sandwich today. Even stores said Biscuitville had shut down because they didn't have electricity.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: Well, yeah, because you can't use credit
[00:08:43] Speaker A: card or can't turn the stoves on unless they got gas stoves. And even then, I mean, everything earthly.
[00:08:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
Well, welcome to another 167.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: Yes. I got.
[00:08:56] Speaker C: This will be fun today. I got a bunch of little things to talk about that probably all tie together somehow or another.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: It'll all come together. It always does.
[00:09:02] Speaker C: But anyway, good to. I guess I could think we were here last. I can't remember. I'm getting out of.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Out of whack. Yeah. And we've had some. Some days. I do like that shirt though, by the way. Flipping awes.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you.
Who is. Oh, it's just like.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Is it pancakes or hamburgers?
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Hamburgers. Burgers.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Okay. You can flip pancakes.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: I thought it might be like char grill.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: I thought it might be camping.
[00:09:25] Speaker C: I think it's just grilling. Cooking out. My mom got me this shirt a few years ago, but I think this pro. I never even noticed this before, but I bet that dog would have represented Charlie, my dog, at that time.
We were always.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: It looks comfortable. It looks like. It's a nice fabric.
[00:09:39] Speaker C: Life is good. This stuff is super comfortable. I like that.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: I was gonna say you act like it's cold outside. It's actually 60 degrees today.
Yesterday was something special.
70.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: No, I ain't packing away my coats or nothing. I want to, but I sure ain't wearing them after that, so.
[00:09:59] Speaker C: I love snow. I really do. I love. It's beautiful. And I like. 40 years old. I still like to get on place.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: I like a day of it.
[00:10:05] Speaker C: That's me.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: I'd love for it to snow on
[00:10:07] Speaker C: Monday when we had the Friday or.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Or Monday.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: Thursday. Thursday for you.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Thursday.
I go Thursday.
[00:10:15] Speaker C: Well, it snowed in the knife, so it was weird.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: The.
[00:10:18] Speaker C: I know everybody listens knows this but we had a circle of snow all around Raleigh for that entire Saturday. That night. But once it finally got.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: Didn't have anything where we were.
[00:10:28] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: No, it was like not a flake.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: It's like an alleyway.
Yes. Moses.
[00:10:34] Speaker C: Moses. Yeah.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: That's one reason I was like, boys, I ain't. I. I told the elders. We were talking all throughout. Dad said, boys, I Ain't calling this thing till I see a flake.
[00:10:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:43] Speaker A: I said, they, they have missed this one left and right. They said, literally every direction we're going, we're going to make a flake. And that's why I said, I'll just tell them at 8:30 we're going to make a call at 8:30 in the morning, you know, if you want to sleep in anyway, turn your phone off.
[00:10:57] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I was.
[00:10:59] Speaker A: Came in what, 12, about 9:30 as soon as I made that phone call.
[00:11:03] Speaker C: Yeah, it started.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: I told him, I said, well, there you go. I should, I should have called him at 4 o', clock, made that announcement, starts knowing it fine.
[00:11:09] Speaker C: Kept checking. I got up that morning and was.
We had arranged to swap out the kids the night before because we didn't know it was gonna start. I got up and it still hadn't started yet. And all day long I kept checking. It said one hour away, it's gonna start in one hour.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: All day long, look out the window.
[00:11:26] Speaker C: And it finally did. But anyway, once it finally did snow, I mean, I went out and got a little walk in and got to enjoy it for a little bit. And about that Sunday afternoon, about 2 or 3 o', clock, I said, I'm over it now. Once this is melted, I'm ready for springtime. I got the snowman.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: I'm ready.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Let's get it on.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: We always get a big snow if it's coming up from the Gulf.
[00:11:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: Not from the mountains and, and not if, if cold air is chasing the snow. But if it's already cold, we'll get a good.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: And it was already cold here.
Just did not have the moisture to it.
[00:11:55] Speaker C: It's been a while week. It was down to the teens the other day, like two, three days ago.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Listen, this has been a cold winter, boys. Yeah, I'm sick of the cold. I'm ready.
I'm ready to go. Short sleeves and shorts, man.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Me too, Kenny.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: I'm with you. Put that flannel up. You like the, you're like the pucksutawney feel of it.
[00:12:11] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: We got six more weeks.
[00:12:15] Speaker C: We got six more weeks.
Maybe four.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Maybe four weeks.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:12:22] Speaker B: I've seen, I've seen March.
[00:12:24] Speaker A: Oh, I've seen some cold and some. I've seen some snow at March.
I've seen, I've seen a snow at Easter when I was a kid. Kid.
[00:12:32] Speaker C: Yeah. And that was.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Well, Easter's early this year, first weekend in April, so I mean it's real early.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: I've Seen a snow in July.
What?
[00:12:40] Speaker A: Where were you, Wyoming? Jackson Hole?
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Yeah, actually. Yeah, I was out somewhere out west.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: Man, those places out there. So don't go away. Yeah, I mean, you right out there in the spring, you still have snow on the road?
We still got snow around. I think it got gone yesterday, but there's some parking lots. I was like, man, this stuff ain't never going to disappear.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: That's piled up snow. Yeah, but they were. There weren't.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: All I know is you don't ever see that much around here.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: The ditches had snow in them. Yeah. Monday. I know.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: Yeah. It ain't.
[00:13:13] Speaker C: No.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: But it was in the sun the whole day. Yeah.
[00:13:18] Speaker A: Saw it in it.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I was quite glad in the first meltdown.
[00:13:22] Speaker C: Yeah, boy, I gotta share this one. Kenny already knows the story, if he didn't forget it. But, boy, Christian sure threw me under the bus Sunday.
So for the backdrop of this, Carolina Duke played Saturday night.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: That's correct.
[00:13:34] Speaker C: You can imagine my. My mood Saturday night. It was very tense.
Won the game, but, man, it was stressful and pretty tense. Well, Sunday, I go pick him up from children's church, and they'd made these little crosses.
And he said, dad, look what you made. I said, oh, that's cool, man.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Yeah, look at that.
[00:13:53] Speaker C: He said, now every time you say an ugly word, I'm going to wave it at you. This is front of Renee, Kenny. I said, son, you will throw me on the bus in a hurry, won't you? So he took it with him to the super bowl party that night. He said, I know if your team doesn't win, you're going to say ugly words. So I'm going to. I said, I don't care about super bowl, but, you know, I don't care about that. He did took it into the party and he said, I'm watching you. I said, man, I told her I'm raising a little legalist. Yeah, dude, walking around with a check mark.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: What's your. What's your. The ugly word.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: Du.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the power of Christ compels.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:24] Speaker C: The thing about it is I actually. I thought I was pretty good Saturday night. I mean, there were a lot of times that I. I caught a couple in my mouth before they got out. And that's always interesting because it just comes out gibberish, like I'm speaking in tongue.
But I thought I did a pretty decent job of it, but apparently not good enough for him. Oh, no, let me tell you something. Waves cross at me every time I, you know, I have to and maybe
[00:14:48] Speaker A: this relates to a little bit of a.
I can use it for a spiritual lesson.
You know, I have softened, and I know it probably disappoints some Wolfpack fans.
I have softened towards the light blue team. Really. Part of is being married for 32 years to a Carolina fan. Part of it is spending, sending a whole lot of money up to Chapel Hill and seeing my son graduate from there. Okay. So I've softened. Not saying I'm pulling for him.
[00:15:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Don't get me wrong, I'm not pulling for him. But if they. If they were to beat Duke, I wasn't going to be mad because, hey, I'm married to a lady that it's going to affect how she feels. So I just assume she'd be happy now.
[00:15:28] Speaker C: Did she watch the game live?
[00:15:30] Speaker A: No. I know you does not. Okay. She does not.
Now she happened to walk in. I do. Because like I said, I ain't got no skin in the game. I hope both of them lose and the lights go out as a State fan. But. But she came into the kitchen. She was back there, watch. Watching some show. She was watching. She came in the kitchen and it was like the four seconds to go.
[00:15:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: Carolina had the ball. They. They had come back tiny. And I said, you do know your team is right on the verge of maybe winning this game. And she came in there and watched the last one because it was tied.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: So she didn't. She wasn't going to lose.
So.
But anyway, I've softened a little bit until they showed Roy Williams on my tv and my blood pressure does.
And I said, I can't. Oh, man. And all those feelings of Carolina hatred came back that I was like, I can't pull for him. Sorry. Roy Williams on my tv. I don't need to see him. I lived through his years and his mess. He needs to be gone.
And I can equate that to our feelings and emotions change.
We might be. One day we're all about something, and then it doesn't take but just one thing, and we're different. But what I love about what God's love is about, it's unchanging. I don't wake up the next day and wonder, oh, is God going to love me? Has God changed? Has some feeling eroded or something else? No, God loves me. And it's eternally and it's unconditional. And I love that.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: And they need Jesus, too.
I've softened that way, too. Yeah.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: Storage Carolina or Jesus, Caroline, they just
[00:17:13] Speaker B: really need the Lord.
[00:17:14] Speaker A: Yeah,
[00:17:16] Speaker C: it's so funny too, because there's two. One of my best friends in the world, one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Good Christian family, good guy. But you get him talking about Coach K. Oh, and I have heard him say some things about that man that I would never.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:35] Speaker C: I mean, some of the stuff he says, it's just like, wow, I can't believe my buddy say that. But then the funny thing about it is I heard you talk about Roy one time and I thought, I can't believe my pastor said that.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
But.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah. And Renee said, you really need to
[00:17:50] Speaker B: deal with this, royal.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: I said, I don't have to live with it.
[00:17:55] Speaker C: I really take you.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: By now just going to the games, ruining my life.
Oh. And like I said, I watched the entire game. I don't think I saw him. And then at the end, they showed him that, oh, argyle sweater.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And I was like, do you like Dean Smith?
[00:18:15] Speaker A: You know what I did when Dean coached?
[00:18:18] Speaker C: No.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: When Dean quit coaching and I read about what kind of person he was, I was like, no, he's a fine man.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I always thought he was.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: But there's nothing redeeming about the other one.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: I prayed about it too fast and. Pray.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that, that other one.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Woof. Man.
[00:18:40] Speaker C: Well, Sunday was. We finally got back Sunday. That was. Did we miss two weeks in a row? We did.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: We did.
[00:18:45] Speaker C: Two weeks in a row.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: We did. I think that might be what's throwing me off is there for a while it was funny. I made a joke. I said, dog, Doug's preached more in, in 2026 than I am.
[00:18:56] Speaker C: I told somebody this morning, I feel like, I feel like Ski done one or two.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: He did one for the ski trip. But I did do the first one of the year. No, he did the ski trip was the fourth, so I was gone.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: So you.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: No, I was going the other. I did the 4th and then we won't hear the 18th or the 25th.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: So January or no, the 25th. You've only done. Man, you.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: I've done three sermons this year.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying, boys. I'm, I'm.
I'm a fish without water.
It ain't because I want it. Didn't want to.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: Three sermons in two months.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Hey, I love that, that pace.
[00:19:37] Speaker C: Pretty good gig.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a part time man.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: But then you got to kick in the videos. That's the thing.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Because I had a sermon ready, then you had to do a video. Then you got my sermon Ready? Got to do a video, so.
[00:19:46] Speaker C: And the videos probably take not as long to prepare as a sermon, but as far as the production of it, I guarantee it takes you as long to shoot those as it does to.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: You'd be surprised. I, I, the Lord's blessed that we do a one take usually really. We don't have to back up and say, all right, I've, I've got it, the sermon written out. And we, you know, I know my points.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: And we go, have you, haven't you watched them? You see being right here, then right here.
[00:20:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: That kid. Yeah.
[00:20:16] Speaker C: You can still edit something without. But if you can get in one take, a lot of time you can do it in one take and you just cut out.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And he really doesn't have to do much editing. We'll have to stop every now and then I'll be like, oh man, I missed that point. Let's go back, start back at 0.2. 0.2 is this. And it's rare that we have that because we, we've got some tricks of the trade that help us.
[00:20:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: I'm kind of like a newscaster in the way.
[00:20:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:20:40] Speaker C: So my notes from Sunday or I've been, I'm just a little ahead of you and John. So I was reading Lazarus last night and had some stuff.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: You're four or five chapters that of me. Yeah.
[00:20:50] Speaker C: I waited on you till we got to Christmas and then.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Why take four weeks off?
[00:20:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I saw three of them.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: So my pay, by the way.
[00:20:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Since you're keeping up with it.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: I will. Yeah.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: No, and I've, I've started looking at the next Christmas of Christmas, the sermons we're going to look at. And I'm toying with the idea of, you know, Isaiah 53. There's a couple other psalms, not psalms, but songs in Isaiah that's called the Song of the Servant. There's several that talk about the Christ and when he comes and looking at, you know, maybe Christmas with Isaiah or an old timey Christmas going back 700 years before Christ was born and looking at some of those. So I'm, I really would love to do that. It'd be different. I try to try to do something new.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: So you're in December, what you're going to, what you have planned.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Well, my John series takes us up until May along with. I got some Easter days in there. Then once you get to May, forget your series because you got Mother's Day, you got graduation Sunday, you got Communion, you got 4th of July and then you got the summer. And so then we'll kick back on a new series in August. And then I got just got to do from August to December or November because Thanksgiving.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: I know how far I need you like six months ahead or.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: Well, I'm a good four or five. And then I've got Christmas in my mind.
I got to figure out where we want to go August through November.
And I've got some ideas, but we'll see.
[00:22:26] Speaker C: So you'll finish John in the springtime?
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. And we're going to start, like I said, like this week, John 8, and we're going to look at 1 through 11. Then we'll do John 9, 10, 11. You know, it really moves right along now.
[00:22:40] Speaker C: There were.
I said it all kind of ties together a little bit. So some of the stuff you said on Sunday from John 7, I kind of got it down and ties a little bit to what I have highlighted from the Lazarus story from last night. But, you know, one thing that you made it was towards the end of the sermon, but you said life gets harder sometimes. And when, when you start walking with Jesus.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: I wanted people to. When, when you were telling people that in Jesus you find contentment for your soul.
We, we often, and I don't know if it's an American thing or whatever, but we fall into the trap of, oh, content for my soul. It's going to be an easy piece of life.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: That's not. Jesus said, hey, if they hated me, they're gonna hate you. You will have troubles.
[00:23:25] Speaker C: That. And you gave an analogy that I thought was great about the Snickers versus. I don't know if you said Snickers versus steak, but you talked about a Snickers being something that'll be hungry.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:35] Speaker C: Well, I wrote down beyond that. It's the equivalent of you can load up on Snickers versus steak or chicken. That's going to last and stay with you a lot longer, keep you full, be more nutritious for you. A lot of good things about eating protein as opposed to just candy bars. Right. Still going to fill your stomach up the same way. But what it's going to do beyond that and how lasting it's going to be and how healthy it's going to be. All that is a totally different, different outcome.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:01] Speaker C: From the same starting point.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: Right. And even eating steak and chicken.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: Eventually, golly, I'm going to be hungry.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: That's right. Yeah.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: And what Jesus is promising there is look from, from your, from your gut, your Belly will flow rivers of living water. Well, our belly is the one part of the body that is never satisfied.
[00:24:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: I mean, you can satisfy it for a bit, but it's always going to be hungry.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah. The thing with the Getting it becoming harder.
I was thinking about that as you were saying it, and that's certainly what I've experienced.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:33] Speaker C: I mean, it's things have.
You think, oh, God's going to fix everything. Well, he fixes it his way. His way is a lot different than maybe the way you wanted it sometimes.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:43] Speaker C: But the thing about it is trying to think of how to make, you know, make sense of that really. There's a difference between having an easy life and a good life and a productive life. Sometimes productive is hard. It's not. It's a good thing. You know, it's going to the gym, boy, that's not fun.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:24:58] Speaker C: It's good for you. You know, there's a lot of things that he's. He's going to do what's best for you, but that's not always going to be a fun ride or a fun experience.
And, you know, tie that back to Lazarus. There were three verses, I guess I jotted down here, verse four. He said, the sickness is not to end in death, but for the glory of God so that the Son of man may be glorified.
Then Fast forward to 1615.
Lazarus is dead, and I'm glad for your sakes that I was not there so that you may believe, or so that you may fully believe what it says. And then verse 40. Jesus said to her, did I not say to you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God? Just kind of taking all three of those. I mean, sometimes some. He's going to let some bad things happen to. I don't want to say it's so simple as this, but sometimes we show off almost. It's almost just to. To really be able to show what he can do. Sometimes the situation has to get pretty dire until you get to a point where it's.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: It's going to take something.
[00:26:01] Speaker C: It's going to take something miraculous. That's it. It's going to take a miracle so he can do something that you'd consider. These were all about signs. They wanted signs. Well, this is as big as you can.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: Well, if you stop and think about it, I mean, that. That's all throughout the script.
It would be easy if Moses would have walked into Pharaoh and said, let my people go. And then lo and behold, Pharaoh says, okay. And they Go. Well, then Moses looks like a master negotiator and the ultimate diplomat of all time. Well, what happened? Well, the Israelites ended up getting mad at Moses to the point of they basically wanted to, hey, who are you? And we're going to kill you. Because now we're having to go get our own straw, and we're still slaves, and we're having to work three times as hard.
Then they had to go through 10 plagues. And, you know, and it talks about God hardening Pharaoh's heart so that, hey, I want you to see all my glory. Ten plagues, then parting of the Red Sea. I mean, it was all God showing himself through Moses where it'd just been easy street. Had been, all right.
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, all right, they took a stand, didn't worship golden idol. If they just said, all right, since you didn't worship them, you go on and do that. Well, that'd been nice, but no, that get thrown in a fiery furnace, which that, to me, sounds worse than anything else. And lo and behold, God delivers them, too. So, yeah, life. Sometimes God takes us through those things. His own son, the most glorious event of all of history involved a lot of pain, a lot of struggling. Christ going all the way to the cross and dying for our sins, having the sins of the world put upon him. That's. That's pretty.
Pretty agonizing if you stop and think about it. And I think sometimes we underestimate suffering and we underestimate the hard times because we. We forget that's where God's going to do his best work.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: You know, I think sometimes, a lot of times, these good verses that, you know, come ye, all ye that are heavy. Late night will give you rest. Matthew 11:28, or ask anything, my name, it shall be done. Okay. We sometimes interpret that into our physical. And it should be a physical blessing.
Spiritual. Yeah, you said physical twice. Okay. Spiritual. Yeah.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: Well, yeah, and I think we.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: We lose sight of that track and we.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: We want to sign up for the prosperity goal. I want the prosperity now.
Yeah. I want what's fair. God. Why am I. I mean, Hebrews, tonight I'm going to be in Hebrews chapter 10, and we're going to be looking at verses. Let's see, are we through 20s?
No, we're in the 30s now. 30s. We're at the end of the chapter. He says there, go back to the former days when people when your property was being confiscated, when you were being arrested, when you were being persecuted, and you did it with joy.
Why? Because you had something that was better and permanent waiting for you. And that's what we've got to keep in mind. There's something better.
And I think what oftentimes is we equate the better life, the good life, if you will, with, okay, comfort, ease.
All my needs are met.
I'm sitting in a hot tub. Whatever you want to equate that ease to. And God's not all about your prosperity in that regards, as much as he is prospering your soul. Soul. Your spirit. You're exactly right.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: He is aware of that. Like. Like you say he wants. You know, he's going to give you clothes. He's gonna. He's gonna give you something to eat. It's not gonna be a steak. It might be rice. Right. And sometimes.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: Sometimes it might be a steak.
[00:29:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: Occasional.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: It might not be a steak. It might be.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: Sometimes it could be.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: I'm just saying.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: And sometimes it could be. Right.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Nothing wrong with beef. That's one.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: Or for.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: Yeah, the other one.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: But we're just not on the level that God is in our prayer life.
We're always asking more.
[00:30:04] Speaker C: More.
[00:30:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: Bless me.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: Yes. And not really.
We don't. A lot of times our prayer life, we're not thinking long term. Most time it's short term.
You can write that down.
[00:30:24] Speaker C: We were even talking.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: You want me to write it for you?
[00:30:28] Speaker A: No, actually, the reason I made a face is that's exactly what I'm going to be talking about tonight is when you come to Christ, there's a radical shift in about four areas of your life. There should be.
And those four areas are one, you begin to see eternal versus temporal.
You begin to be less about yourself and more about others.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: You begin to realize that you want God's will to be done, not just fairness.
And then what you want is.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: There's one more. You only got three.
I'm going to let you say it.
[00:31:04] Speaker A: No, the other is again, the temporal versus eternal.
What is that fourth one? It is less of self and more of others. But you begin to see more of God's plan versus your plan. And I think that's. That's when that radical shift takes place. That's when we can begin to live and not love the world.
We begin to have the eternal perspective.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: That's very good. You got all four. Thanks.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: I'm appreciating.
[00:31:36] Speaker C: There's another thing in John 11 that I kind of chuckled at there.
I'll. I'll get back to that. Actually, I Was telling Mama yesterday one of the. This is such an obvious thing to ever miss. But it's just something that I have to stay on myself a little bit is to. To stay mindful of God's love. As much as he loves us, and I know how much he loves us, but little things. Like yesterday morning, Christian, we were getting ready for school. I told him, I went and woke him up and I said, if you're ready to leave by 7, we'll go to Chick Fil A. Well, I've never heard his feet hit the ground any faster.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: He loves to hit.
[00:32:11] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, he was ready in five minutes. Yeah, like walking out the door five minutes.
And I usually lay back down while he's getting ready. I just wear gym clothes or whatever.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta get dressed up, drop.
[00:32:23] Speaker C: But I barely got laid back down and he came in there. Daddy, I'm ready. Yeah, let's go, baby. But I was thinking about that, you know, I'm so stuck sometimes in my head thinking that I have to earn God's blessings or if I don't have the blessings that I want, that God's mad at me or if I got something, then I must have done something right. I mean, it's just human nature to maybe think. Think of things like that sometimes. And when, you know, was laying back down just kind of thinking about it like, you know, just like I like to do things for my kids just because it makes them happy. God does that too. It's not the only thing he does. And it's not the only way he's going to work. But sometimes that just because I.
I think I always think of God loves me, so he's going to do what's best for me even if it's hard. And I stay there and I live there always. I always just think about, okay, I've
[00:33:14] Speaker A: got to endure what he.
[00:33:15] Speaker C: Like he's a tough football coach or something, you know, I know, good for me. But I just go, well, that's part of it, but I forget the other side of it. That's not always the way it is. And it's not all. Everything that he's doing is not to. Yes, it can be hard. And sometimes it's hard for a lot of reasons. It can be for growth, it can be for discipline. It can be for a variety of things, but the love doesn't change.
And sometimes when you're going through the hard times, it's hard to. It's easy to lose track of that when you're going through the hard Times and. But I think on the other side of it, even when you're going through the good times, sometimes it can be real quick to say, oh, I was good.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: We get too comfortable. Yeah.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: And I think it is that. That goes back to. It kind of. Kind of just brings full circle. What we were saying is knowing that you have a better and lasting possession. That's what Hebrews 10:34 tells us that. And I think there's a couple of. That whole phrase. Knowing one is being certain, banking on it, holding on to the fact that I know that he who promised is faithful. And so all these promises he's given me, I know I have something that's waiting for me now. That better and lasting possession.
What is that? Possession was not a thing. It's a it. It's a he. It's a person. It's Christ. And that's what the whole book of Hebrews, and I'm finally getting to do that tonight, is saying is all of it has come down to this. That he has conquered death. He defeated the power of death and sin. That he has given us an eternal rest. Chapter 4.
That he has made the purchase and given us a clean conscience. Hebrews 7. All that has now come to. That's what you have in Christ.
[00:34:56] Speaker C: Yeah. One of the things that fascinates me about the Bible is how dynamic God is. And that's like an understatement of the year. But there's.
It can be real easy to maybe fixate on one aspect of God. His love, his kindness, his wrath, his power.
But he has so many different dynamics. And one of the things when I think about Jesus, I love when I'm reading through the Gospels and just to get reminded of the personality of Jesus because yes, he was loving, yes, he was compassionate, yes, he was powerful, yes, he was wise. He was all these things.
He could also be smart, eloquent. And I love that. Actually, I think that's.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: I think that when you look at the humanness. Yeah, I like that.
[00:35:35] Speaker C: I find that a little humorous.
You know the one that I just said there.
Did I not say to you that if you believe you will see the glory of God?
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Like.
[00:35:44] Speaker C: Like, where's your common sense? That I just said. You said. But then there was another one that from.
Was it Caiaphas that he.
I'd never seen this before.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: He prophesied.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: He promised it.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: If. If he is of any. If he's any measure or anything else, or let it. Let him die. Yeah, it was talking about that. He didn't even know what he was talking about.
[00:36:06] Speaker C: He said, but one.
Moses said, you know nothing at all, nor do you take into account that it is expedient for you that. No. That one man die for the people and that the whole nation not perish.
And in the commentary, John even goes
[00:36:24] Speaker A: on a little bit later and says this. He said, not knowing that he was prophesying.
[00:36:30] Speaker C: And I just thought that was hilarious. As I read it, I was like, wait a minute. So he was. He.
He ended up saying something prophetic, not.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: Didn't even know he was a prophet.
[00:36:38] Speaker C: Realize he was doing it. He was saying something negative towards Jesus and God turned it into a true prophecy. I just thought that was hilarious. Oh, I love it. Like, that's one of those God show it off kind of things. I love when he does that. But I just.
The.
The dynamic nature of God in all the different ways. He is all of those things. Yes, he has power. Yes, he has wrath. Yes, he has love. Yes, he is. He can be all these things at one time. And I just find it. I just think it's cool.
[00:37:03] Speaker A: I don't know. And he's perfect in all of them.
[00:37:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: I think that's the thing that totally boggles my mind is he's perfectly wise. He's perfectly just. He's perfect. You know, he's perfect in all his ways. And that's what, you know, I might be good in one area, but I'm terrible in another or I'm not that great or. No, he's perfect in all those. Perfect in every way. That's good.
[00:37:26] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm gonna take a break. You got something?
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Yeah, we were looking for you to. I thought you raised up out of that seat. I was like, oh, boy, here we go.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: My back was.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: I was going to buckle up.
Hold on, boys.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: I didn't write my thought down, but I should have. Oh, Lord. Well, it's too late now for God.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: I'll share it with you whenever you need it.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Just grab it
[00:37:51] Speaker C: when you were talking. I think I wrote this down during your sermon. I don't know if it was directed off on your points or not. Talking about the Spirit, being led by the Spirit and having the Holy Spirit come. Come into your life. And when you come to Christ.
I don't know if this is the right way of saying it maybe, but it's trying to describe it for, you know, especially who hasn't experienced it. It's almost like your conscious is replaced by your conscious. Becomes biblical almost. It's almost that same. Everybody has that voice in their head.
[00:38:21] Speaker B: Right.
[00:38:21] Speaker C: It's something we're just. Now, some are misguided and some are born to the right direction. But everybody has that little voice in your head.
And it's the way I've experienced. It's almost been like those that voice just become. It starts to point more and more towards the Bible. And the thoughts that I have start to align more and more with scripture. I don't know if conscious is the right word to use for that.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: I think that's a great, great point of that we need to talk about.
You want to jump in on the way the conscience is and maybe even unsaved and saved and how the Holy Spirit uses your conscious. I mean, you want to jump in
[00:38:58] Speaker B: on that first and I'll clean it up afterwards.
[00:39:01] Speaker C: He always likes to let you go first.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: I'm glad you're going to clean it up.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: All right, Good, good.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Well, I do have some things to
[00:39:07] Speaker A: say, but I want, I think it's one of, you know, there's old saying, Jiminy Cricket said that. And again, if you got any listeners out there, if any of my youth are listening Jiminy Cricket, you just have to look it up. They don't even know who that is. Jiminy Cricket was old Cricket on Pinocchio shoulder. And he always said, let your, your conscience be your guide. All right, that's incorrect. You cannot let your conscience be your guide because your conscience is fallen just like you are now. Our conscience can be shaped by the word of God. And I think that's where you're saying it's almost like it becomes or like the word of God. That's because the more that you intake of God's word, the more that it begins to shape your thinking and it begins to shake your thinking of what's right and wrong. It begins to think, mold and shape your thought processes, your decision making skills, what you would do so things you might not would have done six months ago. Now you do things you wouldn't have done six months ago. Now maybe you're saying I should have been doing that all along.
And that is part of the maturation of growing in Christ.
But it really is the Holy Spirit can take your conscience and begin to shape it so that you are thinking biblically again. I go back, you can't always let, even after that you still have to be careful to let your conscience be your guide because that conscience can still be fallen. And Paul talks about your conscience can be seared. And so you have to be careful because yeah, you need to let everything we do, that's your mind, your heart, everything, be shaped by the word of God and that. That in turn helps you to be able to use that conscience the way it should be.
[00:40:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:55] Speaker C: And I'm not sure if if conscious is even the right way to describe. I'm just trying to think. We use the. We've talked a little bit about.
Try not to be cliche about stuff. I mean, when we talk about walking with. Walking in the Spirit and communicating with God and how we hear from God and all these things, these are such important parts of our daily Life, the other 167 Hours and whatnot. And sometimes we can get so used to talking about. I know what you're talking about. Ken knows what you're talking about. But how do we. How do you explain what that means? Not necessarily to just an unbeliever, but even someone who's early in their walk. And because it's constantly developing as you're growing in it and it's hard to. It's not a voice in your head. It's not voices from the sky and all these types of things. It's not hallucinations. God comes into our lives in very practical ways and reveals himself and. And has a way of communicating with us that it's hard to describe. So I guess I'm trying to figure out how to describe it when I'm. When. When you have those little subtle things that you may not even notice them one by one, but you. You start to look back at it
[00:41:57] Speaker A: over time and start.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: Adds up.
[00:41:59] Speaker C: Now it feels natural to hold a door for somebody where before maybe. Now I'm. I feel bad if I didn't hold a door for somebody or say just hello to somebody or whatever. And it's just all these little. But it's always something that it's not coming.
I'm not sitting around trying to think of these things. Right.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: No, I think that's part of. Again that we said it was walking by the Spirit. I think it's also.
At times it can be that still small voice. At times it can be a reminder of what a scripture is, that maybe. Oh, man, that's a scripture I hadn't even thought about oftentimes in this show.
Man, I didn't even know I knew that scripture or hey, let's take a look at that spirit of God calling back scripture that you. Maybe you memorized or read to say, no, this fits or this helps. And it's the same thing that when you're out and about, maybe it's the. Your walk, you know, your daily activities. You run into somebody and there's a word you need to share, or it can even be, hey, I need to go talk to that guy. You may not even know that person. Or it might be, you know, that person, and the spirit just kind of leads you to say, no, go, go, go spend time with them. Go help them. Cause they're going through a tough time. And that's where being tuned into that spirit is so key. Being tuned into the Holy Spirit in your life to recognize, okay, Lord, that's you telling me, I need to go here. Then at times, it's almost like you see him going ahead of you, working things out, that, oh, look at that. That's the Lord.
And then other times, it may be a conviction or it might be something to the point of, oh, okay, you know, Lord, that's. That's you. I'm gonna trust you here. And sometimes it's the. The Lord telling you, trust me here. And again, it can be a still, small voice. It might be. You read a verse and that verse deals with exactly what you're going through, such as have faith or don't worry. And that's. That's one of those things that the spirit. The spirit's going to use.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
That he had. Yep. Yeah.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: The spirit of God's gonna. Going to help you as you read the word of God, to help you to know, hey, that's something in my life that I wish. That's something I need to be more compassionate. I need to be more of that.
[00:44:18] Speaker B: Can you have a talk about an overactive conscious? Conscious.
You can. Can you have over.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: Well, I'm. Define that. I'm trying to think of that. What, what exactly are you entailing in an overactive conscience? That your conscience is so bad you feel bad that.
[00:44:33] Speaker B: Let's just put it.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: You carry a whole lot of guilt.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: That and okay, you.
You feel extremely bad all the time for that you did something wrong.
[00:44:46] Speaker A: Right.
Somebody's mad at, has that something wrong been confessed? And is that something wrong?
[00:44:53] Speaker B: It's not.
I'm not talking about being confessed or not. I'm just talking about.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: No, I.
[00:44:59] Speaker B: You think you talk. You think you've done something wrong because they're not talking to you or you people aren't talking to you or you think you should have done.
Acted nicer or Right.
That's a. That's what I mean by a reactive conscience.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: I think. I think certainly you can.
I know you can. That's why my question had to Deal with, has it been confessed? Has it been repented of? Because that's where oftentimes that overactive conscience comes in.
It's when we're carrying more guilt than we should.
Because why am I carrying guilt if I've confessed it and the Lord's forgiven me and I've made it right with another person.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: Why. Why am I carrying guilt there?
[00:45:41] Speaker B: And I have seen that where.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Oh yeah, people carry that guilt for years.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: You have an overactive conscience because of lack of belief or a lack of
[00:45:51] Speaker A: believing that God can forgive.
[00:45:52] Speaker B: So it can work the other way too.
[00:45:54] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:45:54] Speaker B: You sure? And I, I think.
But the world, I'm not so sure. They, they live by the conscience with which I think they. That's not. There's no conscience.
[00:46:07] Speaker A: No, they have a conscience.
[00:46:08] Speaker B: Oh, for the big things.
[00:46:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: I say big things.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Well, they own rules too, in a way. But Romans also tells us, Romans 2:15, that the, the, the law's been written on our heart. That's even lost. People have a little bit of the law written on their heart so that they know murder, murder is wrong no matter where you go, for the most part. You might find one or two crazy places, but for the most part, murder is wrong. People have a sense of morality. I think that's part of being created in the image of God. Now it's marred, it's scarred. We're not like we were, but we are able to relate to God. We're able to know what's right and what's wrong for the most part, within reason.
[00:46:48] Speaker B: Well, here's an example.
If you've done something wrong to somebody, right.
What's their reaction? A non Christian, what would be their reaction? Of course they get mad. But they'll seek revenge.
Right.
If that's what I'm talking about. They don't have that type of conscience. A Christian will not seek or should not.
If you're led by the spirit, you would not seek revenge.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Right.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: You would just, you know, take it to prayer. So that's, that's kind of what. When I was saying the world lives by their own conscience, which I'm not so sure there is a conscience on that, but there is the ones that are written on your, your, your heart from day one, you know, right and wrong. Murder, right Killing, theft, or, or.
I'm not. I was going to say the Sabbath, but that's not. I don't know if that's really written on your heart or not. I mean, that's one of the.
[00:47:53] Speaker A: No, I think, I think part of it might be knowing that there's a God. But whether I chew that out or not, it does say, yeah, whether I
[00:48:01] Speaker B: tune that out, everybody.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: That's the thing.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: There was a God at one point in time, but over time you chose not to believe there is a God.
[00:48:09] Speaker A: Right.
[00:48:10] Speaker B: And it doesn't help that we got evolution out here and we got, you know, people saying that, you know, the earth just evolved. That's not helping people to believe God. That there is God that leads people to believe, well, there might not be a God. Yeah.
So
[00:48:31] Speaker C: to me, that the, the crazier the world's ideas become, the. I think the more evident God becomes to the masses. I mean, you have people now that still either is flat.
So as we come up with crazier and crazier ideas, it's. I don't know.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: Well, it is absolutely amazing that to me how the world, you know, thinks and they can almost convince themselves that, okay, this is the right way.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: Anybody can convince themselves can be deceived. And that goes with Christians too.
[00:49:04] Speaker A: Well, I mean, that's all the way through.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Bo, since we're talking about conscience, I do remember when I first got saved and my parents could call me. I never cussed in front of my mother because my head would been slapped off.
Yeah.
But I remember going out to basketball. This, I guess was about 10, 10th grade.
And said a cuss word. It wasn't a bad one. I mean, it's used all the time.
[00:49:34] Speaker A: That's what Roy says. It's just ugly.
[00:49:36] Speaker C: Wicked, let's call that.
[00:49:40] Speaker B: But I mean, it's really. It's not really the word. It's your.
That you're using.
It's your heart.
That's, that's, that's the word is.
I would think the words are pure. That's how you use them and why you use them Will.
But I said one and I was convicted instantly. And I never had that before.
So that was a change of heart. Once I became a Christian, I wasn't probably. I might have been maybe a couple weeks at the most.
I remember that.
Yeah.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: And it's amazing how as you. How it does come about as you get older.
[00:50:22] Speaker B: And I'm not talking about older in age as much as reading the Bible as realize, oh, this is wrong too. This is wrong too. But then you. Then the bad side about that, you can drop into legalism quickly.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: Well, and I think that's where grace comes in. And knowing that, you know, but knowing that I've been saved by grace, I also walk by Grace.
And, you know, knowing that grace has saved me, how do I want to. Why do I want to sin against that?
[00:50:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, just things like there are certain things that are wrong for me.
[00:50:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:56] Speaker B: But it's not wrong for other people.
[00:50:57] Speaker A: Right.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: But if I judge them based on my conscience, then saying, well, they're not saved because they're doing this and that. And that. One of them was. I remember.
I do remember this because when I was growing up, the movies. Going to the movies was not, oh, that's wicked. Wicked.
A Christian.
A person came to know the Lord was talking about the movies that she was going to and that she'd been to and think, well, how can you be a Christian?
[00:51:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: And see, that was. That was wrong on my part, trying to force my beliefs on her when it doesn't even say in the Bible.
I mean, it might say something. Well, you don't want to see, you know, Radix movies or something like this. But this was just like a PG13 movie, I think.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: Right.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: And.
But I. I didn't say it out loud, but I do remember some time thinking, how can she be a Christian?
[00:51:58] Speaker C: Well, one of the things that I've noticed with it is that the further I get along in my walk, the more I start to understand the intent behind the instructions as opposed to what the instructions themselves really were. And I'm not saying I know it all, but. But I'll give you a good example. One, you know, the fitness. I've been trying real hard, last three or four months to work on my fitness. All right? Now, I took a huge hit during the snow because I was. I went to mom and Dad's for a weekend and pigged out, and then we were out. I couldn't go to the gym.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: But snow on the ground makes you eat more.
[00:52:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it is. So I've gone the wrong direction, but I have been working on it, and it's a conviction, more so than just a vanity or wanting to be healthier. I mean, it's a. The whole body's a temple thing. And what. But I mean, There's a.
[00:52:44] Speaker A: There's a 19.
[00:52:45] Speaker C: I've never really thought of how I treat my body as being a sin or not or whatever, but it is.
[00:52:53] Speaker B: I mean, to exercise. It does say that.
[00:52:55] Speaker C: And even another side of it that I.
I can be pretty hard on myself sometimes, too, and especially in some areas of myself that I don't particularly like. You know, I just. I wish I wasn't this way. And some of those ways, some of those things that I've kind of learned, they're not necessarily bad things. I may not like them and they may be inconvenient for me. I don't like the ADHD thing. I can't remember my car keys half the time, you know, but that's not, it's not something I'm proud of or should be ashamed of either. It's how God made me. God makes us. And he doesn't make mistakes. I guess the way I've heard it said. I mean, he made you the way he wanted to make you. So it's, it's probably even a little bit even self loathing or being down on yourself is another way of, you know, in some ways I'm kind of discrediting God's work when I complain about, you didn't make me the right way. I wish I was taller. I wish I was whatever, you know,
[00:53:44] Speaker A: wish I was a baller.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: That's right. God didn't have the bad day when he was making me. It was a bad day for him.
[00:53:51] Speaker C: But I mean, just.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: Well, and there is, there is that God don't make no junk. So, so you are created in God's image, regardless of how bad you think you're messed up. Created in his image. And you are, Ephesians 2:10, you are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus. So I think it's, it's important to always realize what is it. You may say some things about yourself, but what is it God says about you?
And when you realize what God has said is that he has adopted you, that you're his child, and thus we are.
And then when you look at Ephesians 2. 10 and you look at those things, you begin to realize, okay, I know I've got some flaws, man. I'm so thankful that God loves me. And I think it's also one of, rather than self loathing, it also becomes one of, okay, how do I cope through this? How, how do I. Some things you may have to work on improving, some things you just can't improve. I mean, some, some folks just ain't born pretty well.
[00:54:49] Speaker C: And there's things like the ADHD thing
[00:54:51] Speaker B: I bring up, you probably would know.
I'm like, you probably know, but at
[00:54:58] Speaker A: the same time, no, God sees you as man. You are his child. And that's what I love about, about the father is man, he's got a perfect love for his children.
[00:55:07] Speaker C: Well, I was telling Mama the other day about the ADD thing, like there are some hidden advantages of it as well. When you have add. When you do have something on your mind, boy, you, you, you can't get it off your mind. You can be, you can obsess really quick, which can be a problem.
[00:55:20] Speaker B: Right.
[00:55:21] Speaker C: It can also be something that God can use at certain times. So some of the things that we see as flaws, God can use that in a way. And it's just in. So that's just a couple of examples of things that as you start to get deeper and deeper into it, you start to say, oh, this is why he said it. This is why we're supposed to.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: Well, and when you look at who God used throughout the Bible, there's some flawed human beings, man. They are some messed up jokers.
Moses was a murderer. Moses was also one that when you look at his life, the first 80 years, first 40 raised in the temple or the palace of Pharaoh, had it all going on. I mean, he was an up and comer man to the last 40 years, from 40 to 80, he spent out in the wilderness with a bunch of sheep. But it took that getting him humble, getting him to the place where, okay, now you're ready to be my man. And that's when God calls him. And if you look at it in Ephesians, I'm sorry, Exodus 3 and Exodus 4, man, Moses, about the furthest thing from wanting to do something. I mean, he's got more excuses than he's got, you know, anything else. He's got sheep.
[00:56:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
What. Where does regret play into? I was thinking about this the other day with regrets. You know, there's. I think I was listening to a song or something. John Daly, the golfer, got some music out and one of them said something about not having any regrets. And I thought, I remember saying one time on a podcast, I didn't have any regrets. And then I went back later and said I was wrong about that. I did have a lot of regrets. And I was thinking about is it is our regrets something.
I know we don't want to carry guilt, right? But I guess, is it right, wrong or indifferent to even have regrets in the first place? One of the things that I've that helped me at one point think about is that even my mistakes and the things that I, I should regret, so to speak, God can do good things with those. Romans 8, 28 Roman works all God works all things together for good, even your mistakes. I've experienced him work together for good. So once I accept that, I start to think. Doesn't mean that I want to go out and make more of them. But do I really regret some of my mistakes in the past if God's going to work them together for good. And most blatantly obvious one that I can own. I don't regret Christian a bit. It started as a sin.
Do I regret it? Absolutely not. Is he the only example of that in my life? Probably not. There's probably a bunch of things that I've done wrong that God's going to do something good enough with or has already done something good enough with that it gets to a point where do I even regret? So I just started to think about regret. Is it something.
Should you even carry regrets if you have that faith that he's going to work everything together?
[00:57:56] Speaker A: Wow, that's a great question.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Well, regret. I just, I want to say it's right to have regrets, wrong to have regrets. I just wished that I, at that time I had more wisdom.
Sure.
Now when we come to Christ, he works everything out. If you really think about it, you're forgiven your sins, you're a child of God, you're on your way to heaven.
He works things out that we made a mess of it. He's made something beautiful come out of it. I mean, there's so many people thinking of a song, shattered dreams, broken hearts, and he made something beautiful out of my life, so.
And if we didn't have trials or tribulations, bad mistakes, would we really need God?
So.
So when you talk about regret, I'm not so sure that we need to have regret. I mean, I do have regret.
I personally feel guilty. Well, I, I shouldn't have been better. I should have done this. I should have done that. I should have done this. But would I be where I am now if I did not do those things? And I'm not saying that I wouldn't be. I'm not saying that I would be. I'm saying thank God I'm not there, you know, so that's just my two cents. You take it away.
[00:59:28] Speaker A: No, I've been going back and forth on this.
You know, first I want to say we should be like that dude that got the tattoo. I have no regards. Oh yeah, that's the name of the show. No Regrets.
No, I think it's one of.
I think regret is. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with regret. I think it's one of. When you sit there and you wallow in it and you wallow in self pity and everything else. But I think Paul is a good example of this. If I had to pick somebody, Philippians 3, I mean Paul refers to himself as the chief of sinners, of which I am foremost. But then in Philippians 3, he talks about all those things I had, regret. As he sits there and he says, and I count all those things as loss.
And I don't know that he ever forgot that. And I don't know that it's ever something that he wanted to get over.
[01:00:24] Speaker B: He put it behind you.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
But now I press on to the higher goals. And so to me, that is a part of letting those past failures or those past mistakes, sins, whatever we've done, learn from them, don't wallow in them, but at the same time, let them guide you to be something that continues to propel you forward again to the higher calling that's in Christ Jesus. Because, I mean, that's the way I would look at those regrets, is doing it that way rather than. Because what happens is we let those regrets just continue and we stay in them. No forgetting those things that are behind. I still remember them. Still, still know, hey, man, I really goofed up. But God. And I think that also gives you a chance to celebrate God.
What would I have done with my life? I would be a mess. I would be shambles. I would be. Who knows, I'd be bankrupt. Spiritually bankrupt.
But your grace and your mercy have bought me here.
[01:01:26] Speaker B: And one more thing is because of those mistakes, I don't repeat, you try not to.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: That's right.
[01:01:35] Speaker B: You learn from that. Yeah.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: You learn from.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Pretty much.
[01:01:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:38] Speaker B: I mean, I'm so far away from that. I'm not saying that I would not do it again.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: That it could happen. That's right.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. That it couldn't happen. I'm just saying I'm so far away from that. I don't think about that to even.
Doesn't cross my mind.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think. I think those are the things that. And, you know, those regrets sometimes is one of the of. You know, I think there's a difference between conviction and regret.
And I think there's a fine line of knowing the difference.
[01:02:07] Speaker B: And I believe, and you quote me if I'm wrong, because you see a lot more people than I do.
On a, you know, spiritual level. I believe everybody has regrets.
[01:02:21] Speaker C: I don't think so. I mean, it's. It's a common.
[01:02:23] Speaker B: I don't know of anybody that does. Does it?
[01:02:25] Speaker C: You hear a lot of people say they don't have regrets, and whether that's true or not is a different thing. I think that the point you made
[01:02:32] Speaker A: about conviction, regretting, they lied.
[01:02:34] Speaker C: They'll regret saying that they didn't have.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: That's right there. Yeah.
Boy.
Yeah.
[01:02:40] Speaker C: But you, you made a good point about the conviction. I think it, it's. Maybe the question that I'm asking is on the other side of conviction, should we have regrets? Yes, you should have regret when you're being convicted. That's the, that's in a way what conviction is, is causing them.
[01:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah. There's a. There's a fine line between what I'm calling grit and then conviction.
[01:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:57] Speaker C: But if it's something that you know, you've.
You've crossed that bridge long time ago with God. Right?
[01:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:04] Speaker C: And now you're on the other side of it, if you're still hanging on to it, I guess.
[01:03:08] Speaker A: Or the enemy keeps bringing it back. Right?
[01:03:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:10] Speaker A: Because that's, that's a, that's a tool of his is to bring back some of those old sins and bring back some of that stuff that, that he knows. It's on our conscience. It's on our radar screens, in our mind of.
Remember how you did that, that big mistake. Oh man. I know in my own life I was crippled by something. I mean, goodness gracious, I did as a child and I never let myself forget it to the point of it impacted the way I walked and the way I lived and the way that I treated others. That it was in a negative sense that. That man, it really did a number on my self worth because I couldn't forgive myself or always regretted it.
[01:03:50] Speaker B: And I want to say this too is the devil is a master of tempting you and then turn around and accuse you. So he plays both sides.
And obviously being tempted is not of God. And obviously accusing you of your. Your of the past is not of God because it's all through the word.
[01:04:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:13] Speaker B: East, west, your sins are removed. If you confess your sins, he's faithful and just to forgive you just on and on and on.
And so that's lottery. I had to remember that he's the accuser of the brethren.
But God, that's one thing.
I regret a lot of things. But do I feel guilty about it?
[01:04:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:38] Speaker B: And the answer is no, I don't.
I wish I had better sense because if I've started feeling guilty about it, then I'm not believing. Jesus Christ, forgive me for all my sins. Yeah.
[01:04:51] Speaker C: There was a.
[01:04:53] Speaker B: Take it from there. No, good job I was helping you out. I like it.
I don't want to say that too hard.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: Appreciate it.
[01:05:06] Speaker C: There was something I was gonna say. I don't want to get us Too far off track with this. But there was something that I watched a movie, the other a show or a series or something a couple weeks ago. I don't think I told you about this. It was where the guy tries to go back and stop the Kennedy assassination.
[01:05:19] Speaker A: I saw that. Okay.
[01:05:20] Speaker C: Did you watch it?
[01:05:21] Speaker A: I saw up until a little bit of it. I mean, I probably watched four episodes.
[01:05:26] Speaker C: So I can't remember if I brought this up.
[01:05:27] Speaker A: It was. I still have a little bit more to go. Yeah.
[01:05:30] Speaker C: So there were two stories from that. There was one every time he would go back and anytime he was starting to do something that was going to change history, history would fight back the
[01:05:41] Speaker A: bad guys with ordber things.
[01:05:43] Speaker C: Bad things would happen to stop him from. And he was basically. They referred to it as history fighting back. And when he finally does pull it off, he goes back to the future, so to speak, and sees it ruined. Like everything. Society's terrible nowadays. And sometimes when I think back to the regrets and stuff, yes, there's things that I want to change, but I also sit there and wonder sometimes if I could change them, if God's done good things with them. I really want to come. I don't want to come back to a world and find out that Christians not here, you know, or something like that.
[01:06:12] Speaker A: Or something has happened.
[01:06:13] Speaker B: Right.
[01:06:13] Speaker C: Or something. And that's just one example. So that was one. But then there was another thing that I.
This was. I can't remember I told you this or not, but I was praying about one time after watching that, I said, God, I want you to work like that in my life. When I'm doing something that I shouldn't do and that I'm doing something that's against your will.
[01:06:30] Speaker B: Do something.
[01:06:30] Speaker C: Not a car hit me, but work against me and just. Just block those doors. Don't let me do things if you're going to change your will. And it was almost like the feelings I got back was, what do you think I've been doing for five years?
[01:06:42] Speaker A: I think too, I think sometimes when we pray that though, you know, I think the Lord kind of in a way says, giving you holy spirit. Yeah, I've given you all these things.
[01:06:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:06:52] Speaker A: You know, pay attention. If you'll just utilize what you got.
[01:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:58] Speaker A: You might find out about you. You've got it.
[01:07:01] Speaker C: You got it. Yeah.
[01:07:02] Speaker B: Well, before we run out of time.
Go ahead.
[01:07:05] Speaker C: No, I'm good. Go ahead.
[01:07:07] Speaker B: I just wanted to talk about breaking out your phone. No, no, I just see what time it was.
[01:07:11] Speaker A: Okay. I thought you really Had. When you typed it up, I was like, wow.
[01:07:16] Speaker B: You want to hear it?
[01:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm ready.
Bring it on, baby.
[01:07:20] Speaker B: No, I just. I mean, I miss being at church.
That's what I was going to bring up. Miss being at church because the fellowship.
And I'm like, you know when you were saying I miss preaching or I miss churching, and it's not because you. For yourself, it's.
You miss the interaction. Yes.
[01:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:07:45] Speaker B: And I can remember when I first got saved.
I would. We had Thursday night prayer meeting and that Wednesday thing.
And I can remember that. Or that doesn't really matter.
[01:07:57] Speaker A: No, you and I have had that discussion that you said, that's the middle of the week. And I said, no, it ain't.
[01:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
When you're deceived, you can't change somebody.
I must see they can't be changed.
Moved on from that.
[01:08:11] Speaker C: Depends on what day the first day of the week is.
[01:08:13] Speaker A: I guess one Wednesday night. You know, as. As you can tell, sometimes Kenny and I can go back and forth on some. Some splitting of hair sometimes. He said, no, Thursday night's middle of the week. And I said, kenny, there's no way.
[01:08:27] Speaker B: We counted it and it's.
[01:08:32] Speaker A: No, but go ahead with your thought. We'll prove it.
[01:08:35] Speaker B: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
[01:08:39] Speaker A: So three and a half.
[01:08:40] Speaker B: Really.
[01:08:40] Speaker A: It should be.
[01:08:41] Speaker C: What happened to Sunday?
[01:08:42] Speaker A: Yes. Well, Sunday, we're.
[01:08:44] Speaker B: We're not waiting. We have to.
[01:08:45] Speaker C: We don't count Sunday because that's the
[01:08:47] Speaker A: first day of the week because we're meeting. But that's the first day of the week.
[01:08:51] Speaker B: Okay, Sunday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's Sunday. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Four, that's eight.
[01:08:59] Speaker A: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, then Wednesday. Wednesday is going to be three and a half. Okay, so you don't got the. Thursday, that's five.
[01:09:07] Speaker B: Thursday. Okay. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's four.
[01:09:11] Speaker C: I'm just gonna weigh in here. Not to play favorites.
[01:09:14] Speaker B: We're meeting. We're meeting in advance.
[01:09:19] Speaker A: There's not a person in the world who thinks Thursday is towards.
[01:09:22] Speaker C: I'll just say I have. I have no dog in this fight, and I love you both. Kenny, There is no world that Thursday's the middle of the week. I've sat here and tried to figure it out.
[01:09:33] Speaker A: I've tried to figure out what you called Hyundai.
[01:09:36] Speaker B: That's a worldly thing.
[01:09:41] Speaker C: I even wanted to go back. What is Saturn? Saturday is the Sabbath. That's. But that's.
[01:09:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you're. That's closer. If you go closer, Biblical,
[01:09:53] Speaker C: you don't win. This one in the end.
[01:09:55] Speaker B: Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
[01:09:57] Speaker A: That's three days, two and a half days. Three days.
[01:10:00] Speaker B: Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three days.
[01:10:02] Speaker A: So, so I was going to say then Jesus died on Friday, raised on Sunday.
[01:10:08] Speaker B: See, I'm looking, we're looking forward. You're looking behind Sunday, then you get to Wednesday.
Thursday, then you get to Sunday.
[01:10:19] Speaker A: There's no way.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: But anyway, that wasn't even my point.
[01:10:23] Speaker A: No, keep going though. I just, I laugh because we sit there on a Wednesday night. I know we spent 25 minutes and I was like, I can't believe I'm having this conversation.
Why am I having this conversation with this man about what's the middle of the week, Thursday or Wednesday?
[01:10:39] Speaker B: I just don't know why.
[01:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know why you can't see.
[01:10:42] Speaker B: You can't.
[01:10:44] Speaker A: You're blind, son.
The God of this age.
[01:10:47] Speaker B: Anyway, I remember I love to go to church.
Y.
And if I missed Thursday, I just fell down on of them. Yeah, I remember. It was important to me that I would hitchhike after basketball practice to be at church on Thursday.
I would usually get there when they were, they were at the altar praying, everything. Right.
And, and that's. It was five, five miles away. So I would hitchhike at night, get the church on Thursday because I wanted to be there. That's all I was going to say.
[01:11:25] Speaker A: No, but, but, but it is. There is something special when you find, just find a good Bible believing church that has a, the bond of unity, that bond of love that a church should have.
It is something that you will miss.
And, and I thought at first it was okay. It's just because that's my habit. I mean it's easy to say. For 55 years of my life I, I've been at church just about. I don't know how many Sundays I've missed in a row. So to miss two in a row is something.
[01:11:56] Speaker B: What have you ever missed? Have you ever been to church on Thursday?
[01:11:59] Speaker A: No, that's, that's what the pagans do.
But, but if, if you've missed two Sundays in a row, it feels like what in the world?
[01:12:08] Speaker B: Well, even if, for me, even if you miss prayer meeting, like I dread.
[01:12:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that didn't bother me.
Wednesday nights never bothered me. Me.
[01:12:19] Speaker B: Well, it does me.
[01:12:22] Speaker A: It does me now. But it doesn't bother me in the summertime when we take a few Wednesday nights off.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: But it's just the. I know, but it's just like May, June, July, August is four months almost.
[01:12:36] Speaker A: That gets you.
[01:12:37] Speaker B: It does, yeah.
[01:12:38] Speaker A: See, see, it's Sunday.
[01:12:40] Speaker B: I'm not saying you change. I'm not saying change it. I'm just talking about Sunday too.
[01:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:12:44] Speaker B: I'm talking about Thursday and Sunday.
[01:12:45] Speaker A: Right.
But what gets me though is the encouraging one another, being with one another, knowing that, hey, I got your back, you got mine.
The laughing, the carrying on, the love, the crying at times, the mourning, weep with those who weep and mourn with those who mourn. It's all just a big piece of God's given the church as a very special gift to the believer and those that don't tap into it. Man, you're missing it.
[01:13:14] Speaker B: Well, not only that, it's hard.
And I'm just going to go out and say, even delete it or not. It's hard to meet somebody, to get to know somebody. Just going to church on Sunday morning.
[01:13:28] Speaker A: You talking about just going to worship.
[01:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah, you can't. Right? And I'm talking about when I'm saying
[01:13:34] Speaker A: you got to have time outside of that.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: I'm talking about Sunday school and I'm talking about Wednesday night because that's where we fellowship.
Thursday, we're at. Sunday morning, we're at work. We're trying to do.
We're trying to. I mean, during the worship service, we're trying to increase the family of God.
[01:13:52] Speaker A: Well, you're that. And most of the time you sit
[01:13:55] Speaker B: and you're quiet and if you. Well, you do get socialized for three minutes or whatever.
[01:14:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And if I want to, I can go in and out without saying a word to anybody.
[01:14:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:14:05] Speaker A: In a worship service, a lot of people out there. So, you know, if you time it right, you can wait. Wait in your car till about 11 o'.
[01:14:13] Speaker B: Clock.
[01:14:14] Speaker A: Sneak in.
[01:14:15] Speaker C: They've already done the welcome. Yeah, they lock the doors at 11. I learned that.
[01:14:18] Speaker A: Sneak in at 10:59 most time somebody's back there. But sneak in at 10:59. They're probably done with the greeting by then.
Go upstairs, soon as that.
[01:14:28] Speaker C: You.
[01:14:28] Speaker A: You don't even have to wait till we start singing.
[01:14:30] Speaker B: See, my point was not that I missed church, I missed the fellowship.
[01:14:34] Speaker A: You missed the people.
[01:14:36] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Like I say Thursday, I mean, Sunday, 11 to 12, we're at work because we're trying, all of us are working together to increase the kingdom. That don't mean we're not, you know, kidding around or anything like that. But our main goal on Sunday is to increase the kingdom, but it is the people and. Yeah, and Sunday morning, Sunday school, that's for broke for us to Grow and to, you know, socialize with our.
That we all have that common bond,
[01:15:08] Speaker A: which is Jesus Christ, and that's that. That Sunday school time and also all throughout the week is to encourage one another to love and good deeds is what I would put that towards. And so there is. There's just something special about being with God's people when you are born again.
[01:15:23] Speaker B: I know what you talk about when you say, yeah, I can't wait till, you know, Sunday. It's not about you preaching.
[01:15:27] Speaker C: It's part of.
[01:15:28] Speaker B: It's part. Well, yeah.
[01:15:30] Speaker A: And I have to say it is part of it is, because it is. Hey, man, we get to open up God's word.
[01:15:35] Speaker B: What's better there? Yeah. I would say it should be.
[01:15:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:15:38] Speaker B: But it's not all about it.
[01:15:40] Speaker A: Right.
[01:15:40] Speaker B: But some people take it well. He just wants to preach.
I don't think so.
Well, I love it. I'm not saying you don't love.
[01:15:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
[01:15:52] Speaker B: Preaching. Yeah.
[01:15:53] Speaker A: Well, and when you love people, you want to be around.
[01:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:15:56] Speaker C: That's all it is to it. Yeah.
All right, boys. I got to get the kids. See y'.
[01:16:00] Speaker A: All.
[01:16:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:16:00] Speaker A: Good job, guys.
That's the kind of chocolate you get. Get for a. On Valentine's Day. What you getting Valentine's Day.
[01:16:10] Speaker B: I'm getting her a heart that she's going to cut out and I'm going to paint it or something. I don't even know what we're going to do.
What a paper heart. We're going to color it, and we're going to do our real third grade.
Yeah.
[01:16:26] Speaker A: This is.
[01:16:27] Speaker B: Hey, it caught me by surprise. This is right before I left.
[01:16:30] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:16:30] Speaker C: This is her idea.
[01:16:31] Speaker A: Yeah, it's got to be.
[01:16:32] Speaker C: If it's yours, then you might want to find a new.
[01:16:36] Speaker A: Don't do that.
[01:16:38] Speaker B: Color red, I believe. Right.
[01:16:41] Speaker A: And then write notes on it.
[01:16:42] Speaker C: Stuff.
[01:16:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:43] Speaker A: That's nice,
[01:16:49] Speaker B: Sam.