Did Jesus Need Faith?

[00:00:02] Speaker A: Knowing you're gonna be crucified, you know you're gonna suffer. That's a given. Did he know the extent of the suffering? Did he know the extent of the beatings? Did he know the extent of the spiritual suffering that he was. [00:00:13] Speaker B: I would say. I would say yes. But his. I don't know. That the physical suffering was what drove him in the garden to pray, what he prayed. I think it's the spiritual suffering he knew was coming. To have all. Every sin. Your sin, my sin, Kenny's sin, every sin. La. To have the whole wrath of God poured out on him. [00:00:38] Speaker C: I know. Garrett, what's your problem? [00:00:40] Speaker B: Yeah, you do. [00:00:40] Speaker A: I have a real hard time getting woke up this morning. I've been awake since 5:40. [00:00:44] Speaker B: I think it's that outfit, man. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I always wear my Panther gear right after we lose. I don't know what it is. [00:00:51] Speaker B: I was gonna say you should have wore it the week before. [00:00:52] Speaker A: The week before. [00:00:53] Speaker C: There's something. [00:00:54] Speaker B: Big win last week, and then this week was ugly. Laid a egg. [00:00:57] Speaker A: There's something weird about me that when. When we lose, I'm almost more inclined to wear it. So I want to prove I'm not a bandwagon. I don't even. [00:01:06] Speaker B: I get it because I put my Washington stuff at the back of the closet, man. Yeah. I didn't know if I'm gonna wear it anymore this year. [00:01:13] Speaker A: I didn't see the injury, but Sounds like Jaden took a pretty rough one. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That was two ugly games in a row. And man, it's tough being a Washington fan this year. Well, we had a little hope last year, and then this year was reality. [00:01:27] Speaker A: Yeah, but Daniel's a private. Sounds like a little bit of a sophomore slump from him. But I imagine he'll come back. [00:01:32] Speaker B: I think it is. And he'll be. He'll be fine. He's a good quarterback. [00:01:35] Speaker A: He is. I was thinking over here, it seems fitting. I like these 8 o' clock recordings because after whipping up and down 401 for the last 45 minutes, you need something, don't you? I've already about met Jesus about six times. Good to talk about him. [00:01:48] Speaker C: Man. [00:01:49] Speaker B: I tell you what. Traffic ain't getting any better. [00:01:52] Speaker A: And. [00:01:52] Speaker B: And it doesn't matter if you're on 401 or anywhere else. It's pretty rough. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Of mom and dads. They've been putting in these traffic circles in the most random places that there's no traffic. And what used to just be a normal stop sign, they turned like four or Five of these into. [00:02:06] Speaker B: Oh, North Carolina's falling in love with those things. [00:02:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:09] Speaker A: They really have. [00:02:10] Speaker C: I don't know who's on. Who designed the one in Hollow Springs. And that is crazy. Where is that down turn? [00:02:18] Speaker B: Go back. Oh, there's a U turns. There's enough. [00:02:21] Speaker C: Yeah, that's not a U turn. You got to go all the way to the next light. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:26] Speaker C: That's just crazy. Yeah. [00:02:28] Speaker A: I used to joke with a buddy of mine anytime you leave Holly Springs to go somewhere it's like racing Martinsville. Go down, turn left. Go down, turn left. [00:02:38] Speaker B: It is. I had recently. It was a bunch of. I mean I was like, good gracious. They are just. But you know, if you go up north there they love a trifle circle that's come from. [00:02:49] Speaker C: Yes. I remember being up north and a lot mostly I think in New Jersey you can't turn left. You got to turn right. It's called a jug handle. Go over. Then you turn. Oh yeah. [00:03:00] Speaker A: I've seen that before. [00:03:01] Speaker C: Yes. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Well, have we talked about this? I. I know I've talked about to. [00:03:04] Speaker C: A lot of people. [00:03:05] Speaker A: I don't know if we've talked about it here. The absolute utter foolishness of what they've done on Holly springs road with 540 at that intersection. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Oh man. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Where you go left and then you come back over there. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Well, we have it four or five times before. [00:03:19] Speaker A: You're going this way and then you got a veer to the left and then you veer back to the right. [00:03:24] Speaker B: It just crisscross 4042 does that bad. [00:03:27] Speaker C: But you can get that Traffic on Ford i40 as quick. Quick as possible. They don't have to wait. [00:03:33] Speaker A: Well, this is 540. [00:03:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:35] Speaker A: And it's not entered. [00:03:36] Speaker B: This is terrible. [00:03:37] Speaker A: It's off a regular street area. [00:03:40] Speaker B: I went through there the other day and I was like. [00:03:42] Speaker C: But I know what you talked about. [00:03:43] Speaker A: When I first went through there. I'm like, wait a second. This doesn't. [00:03:46] Speaker B: I'm on the wrong side of the road. [00:03:47] Speaker A: I'm not going this way because this is against. This is against the law. I can't go this way. [00:03:51] Speaker C: It's almost. You get confused. [00:03:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:53] Speaker C: You do. You drinking at night. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Are you really confused if you're not used to. I don't know if you've been drinking. It probably makes more sense. [00:04:00] Speaker C: I'm just saying that confused me one night I was just. And I wasn't drinking but at all. But I was. I was just. Am I in the right place on. [00:04:10] Speaker B: The right side that these Cars coming directly at me. [00:04:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it was kind of weird. [00:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, good to be back. [00:04:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Miss you last week. [00:04:21] Speaker B: Last week, yeah, we had two. We had two work teams that were. I mean, we had 11 folks go with 10 folks when we were one, had to back out. She got sick. But we ended up making two work teams and a cook and Alicia cooked, and she did a great job. She works. She worked hard than anybody else. Then you had the two work teams. One was an electrical with Brandon leading it. Brandon did a great job leading it. And then the other was a construction slash renovation slash anything need to be done with Ted Creech leading it. And they laid floor set in cash cabinets. A lot of houses are getting to that place where. Okay, now they're starting to move back in. In fact, the lady that Brandon and I went to clean up some electrical and just make sure it was ready for inspection and all the last house we went to, she had one little thing to do with plumbing, and she was making sure that plumbing was going to be there and she could move in because she was. She said she was not staying in that camper. She was in a little camper for a year with three people, two grown folks and a teenager that was big. I mean, big teenager. And the weather up in the mountains was about 9 degrees this and snowman. So she was. Oh, yeah, it's no, she get. She was a tournament. She was not going to do that. [00:05:28] Speaker C: Wow. [00:05:29] Speaker B: In that camper, she said, I've spent my last snow in the camper. And I said, I can't blame you. [00:05:33] Speaker C: Well, I saw y' all into the house now. I guess. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Picture you saw was in that. [00:05:39] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, was it? [00:05:40] Speaker B: We were up in the attic. [00:05:41] Speaker C: We. [00:05:41] Speaker B: That house. We were actually troubleshooting that it wouldn't pass inspection. And they were trying to get it to pass inspection. And I think somebody had come in and done some what I call jack leg. And we were tracking down where this wire, this switch. What's it doing going over there and then having to rewire that and run a leg off of that. And so it was pretty cool. [00:06:04] Speaker C: It looks like you were. Reminded me of old Indian. [00:06:07] Speaker B: That's what everybody said. [00:06:09] Speaker C: I'm just like. [00:06:09] Speaker B: And I don't know if I was. [00:06:10] Speaker C: Sure I found the treasure. Yeah. On the camera. He was right there. [00:06:15] Speaker A: Did you see that picture? [00:06:17] Speaker C: That's like. It's crazy. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Brandon and I spent the whole week arguing about who was Short Round, who was Indy. And because you were not the only one who commented about that. Matt Abrams, several others I was like. [00:06:28] Speaker C: Let me see if I got. [00:06:30] Speaker B: I think it was one of. Somebody had texted and said, hey, be sure to send pictures. You know, as our social media folks send pictures. And I'm, I'm the worst at taking pictures. I'll do that first. [00:06:40] Speaker C: I'll say that this is it. [00:06:41] Speaker B: So I got. [00:06:45] Speaker C: Discovered. They are. Yeah. [00:06:49] Speaker A: I don't think that one made Facebook. [00:06:51] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't. I thought somehow I did because he had a picture of it. [00:06:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it was. [00:06:57] Speaker B: She may have took it down. She's like, even we got some standards. [00:07:01] Speaker C: It was somewhere. Renee showed me it. Oh man, I just had to laugh. Oh, it was, it was. [00:07:09] Speaker B: But man, it's been out was a week, man. You spend, you know, you leave Sunday because they had a funeral Sunday afternoon, had packing party, then go up there and then come back. It's been a, it's been a whirlwind of a week. [00:07:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:21] Speaker B: I still feel like I'm trying to play catch up, so. [00:07:23] Speaker A: And. And you squeeze. So did you already finish your sermon prep before you left or you squeeze. It sounds like you were doing something. [00:07:29] Speaker B: I was doing a lot of sermon prep. A lot of my sermon prep. I'm thinking ahead. I, you know, I'm reading through the book of John, thinking. But honestly I'm not doing the sermon prep until that week oftentimes now if I know there's a bad week coming up, there's 14 events and this, that and other. I may try to sneak in a little. But yeah, most of it is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I am digging in deep so that the outline to do already Wednesday night. [00:07:54] Speaker A: So when did you get back? Did you get back Wednesday or Thursday? [00:07:56] Speaker B: I got back Wednesday. We got back Wednesday about, I'd say 6:30, 7:00 clock a little bit. [00:08:02] Speaker A: Did you still turn? [00:08:03] Speaker B: Actually no. I got home Wednesday. I took Wednesday off from here, had somebody speak for me and took my mom out for her birthday. That's what I did. So. [00:08:10] Speaker C: Okay. [00:08:10] Speaker B: We got home about 4:30. [00:08:11] Speaker C: Well, do they teach you how to. I see. I mean you got like every day you work on your sermon. Do they teach you that in seminary or you just do? [00:08:21] Speaker B: No, Well, a lot of things they teach you in seminary is they. They teach you how to do a whole lot of work in a short amount of time. And so what they do is they teach you how to discipline yourself or schedule your time. And so at the beginning of the semester, I had one professor, he said, all right, I'm going to require you to read close to 30 books this semester and what you're going to have to do is learn how to read quickly, take in information, but you can't waste time. He said when you're picking up your child and you're sitting in car ride line, be reading. When you're, you know, it's almost one of those things of. Okay, I've got 10 minutes of free time. I can maybe knock down that chap. [00:08:59] Speaker C: Were you already in the ministry when you went to seminary? Yeah. [00:09:06] Speaker B: Well not eight to five. No. [00:09:07] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean you were working here. [00:09:09] Speaker B: Working here. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Okay. [00:09:10] Speaker B: And they kind of semi required 8.5. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:13] Speaker B: And I was part time though. But I was more than part time. Part time in name but I was. [00:09:18] Speaker C: Here part time salary. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I was part time salary. Full time hours. [00:09:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't mind being part time. Full time salary. [00:09:29] Speaker B: I was part time name part time salary. But I was here a lot so. Yeah, I understand but it was good, it was good times, a good training, you know when you, those were the times when you're younger and you're not the senior pastor, you really get trained and you learn a lot about. [00:09:44] Speaker C: He had a good trainer. [00:09:45] Speaker B: We did, we did well. We had a good staff. [00:09:47] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. [00:09:47] Speaker B: We had a good, a whole lot of good stuff going on. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah. You get your haircut? [00:09:52] Speaker B: No. Yeah, I got it combed. Okay, well let me see, when did I get it cut? I might have got it cut two or three weeks. [00:09:59] Speaker A: It's been a couple weeks since I saw you. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Don't grow out fast. [00:10:01] Speaker A: I think it's coming back. I don't know. How long has it been? [00:10:05] Speaker B: Well, I'm trying some of Brandon Goss's hair tips. [00:10:09] Speaker A: I like what he said a few weeks ago. Yes. What he did to his hair. He said, well, it's wash day because I watched it. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Well that's, that's okay. He told me some of his hair tips when we were traveling up to the mountain. I'm trying, I'm trying some of them. Next time he's on, see if it adds some. But I'm gonna be honest with you boys. About 10 minutes ago I, I looked at my clock, I thought we were doing about 8:15. That's why I was a little, little late. But about 7:45 I looked and I said, oh, it's at 8:00'. [00:10:33] Speaker C: Clock. [00:10:33] Speaker B: I was, I was still lifting weights so I jumped in the shower and washed real quick. That's why it's mighty wet. [00:10:40] Speaker A: How long do you have that? We Got to be. [00:10:41] Speaker B: I'm. Hey, we'll go hour, hour and a half, the usual show link. [00:10:46] Speaker C: Okay. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Does anybody actually know what day of the week it is? [00:10:50] Speaker B: Anybody around here really work? [00:10:51] Speaker A: No, because it's with Veterans Day. And see, then how about being a mixed up schedule? Gabe and Reese were out of school Monday. [00:11:01] Speaker B: That's right. [00:11:01] Speaker A: But then they went to school on Tuesday. Christian was out. I thought he was out Monday also. And going on Tuesday, he was in both days. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. So. [00:11:12] Speaker A: I don't know what I know. Last night on the Zoom call, somebody said they thought it was Saturday. [00:11:17] Speaker B: It feels. It's been odd being off on Tuesday just throws kind of. That's odd because usually it's a weekend. And then also Monday was a telework day for the Harnett county teacher, so. Yeah, yeah, I know, Renee. [00:11:30] Speaker C: I was like, dog. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Might as well just go ahead and take off. It's Thursday. Friday. Take off three days and pay off the week. Use the whole week. Yeah. [00:11:36] Speaker A: Well, I don't have any notes for Sunday. I went up to mom and dad's and I forgot to take my notebook with me up there. But we were laughing at it because once again, you're a little ambitious thinking you're gonna get this thing knocked out in one try. I told her, I said, we ever going. She. He's never gonna finish one in one part again. He might as well. [00:11:53] Speaker B: That was a lot. There's a lot in that text. And I did spend quite a bit of time looking. Looking at the. The miserable man. [00:11:59] Speaker A: The miserable. [00:12:00] Speaker B: The miserable unnamed man. I don't know. It was hard for. As I said, it was hard for me to come around on him. Yeah. One never answered the question. Do you want to. Do you want me to help you? Do you want me to make you well? Do you want to be well? Never answered a question. Just started right with the excuses. Then, then, then, you know. Who told you to pick up the mat? The man who healed me and then went back. Then went back. That's the thing, is Jesus revealed himself to him later. He then went back to the rulers and said, oh, it was Jesus. I'm not crazy. [00:12:32] Speaker A: Well, you say threw him under the bus. I had never really looked at it that way, I guess, or heard it that way. But you. That was not a. I guess him telling the rulers it was Jesus who did it wasn't necessarily an act of praise. It was because he was in trouble. [00:12:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:45] Speaker B: I think he was calculated rear end saving. [00:12:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Honestly, saving his job. [00:12:51] Speaker B: He was just saving because look, now trooping on, I can't, in a way, I can't blame him. I mean, those elders had some kind of authority. I mean, they could kick you out of. The thing of it is, being a crippled, he, he couldn't go in the temple anyway, so it ain't like he's losing privileges. Maybe he's excited, he can go in now. I don't know. Yeah, but no, I, I, I just, this guy does not. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Well, and the question Jesus asked, do you want to be healed? I think from a, in a literal sense from this story, someone is disabled. Do you want to be healed? Yes, obviously you want to be healed. But from a spiritual sense, I don't know that it's necessarily so cut and dry. I think there's a lot of people that may not want to be healed right. Spiritually, they might say they want to be here. They may not really want to even acknowledge that they're sick, spiritual, whatever. [00:13:41] Speaker B: Because, well, even, well, even, even to some degree, even the joke I use, you know, some people may not even want to be healed physically because they may get sympathy, they may get support, they may get. And they don't. And oftentimes that goes back to that dirty little word called change. Nobody wants to change or everybody hates change. And that's one of those things. If you're going to grow spiritually, change has got to be a part of your life. And I think that's one of the things is not on embrace change and change for changing sake at the same time. If we're not changing, if we're not growing, then are we truly disciples and are we really being conformed to his image? Because there should be some change that's happening on, I almost like daily basis, but ongoing basis that, you know, I'm not who I used to be. But now you change somebody's routine for a little while and, man, you think you. Yeah, I know. Believe me, I'm still getting back into the routine and getting back from the mission trip of, okay, daily exercise, eating right. You got a schedule. You throw that off, man. And my whole body wants to kind of, oh, what's wrong with me? [00:14:46] Speaker A: I don't have a plan for this trip for y'. All. But for me, eating right on a mission trip is during your impost. They give you as much as you want. And I mean, you're walking out and it's, and the thing is, because you're, you're working, you're active, you are hungry and you're burning calories. [00:15:01] Speaker C: So. [00:15:01] Speaker A: But I'M still doing the math the other day, thinking, I don't think I burned enough for this. [00:15:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it. [00:15:07] Speaker A: That's it. [00:15:08] Speaker B: And that's the thing. And then, you know, I don't eat breakfast much. And so you go in, you got bacon and egg and sausage and all that. You kind of like. Golly, yeah. [00:15:17] Speaker C: Can't resist that. [00:15:18] Speaker B: No. And the smell of bacon in the morning. Oh, man, that's. It's the worst for making me hungry. Yeah, but it's the best. [00:15:25] Speaker C: It smells good. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. But, but like I said, I mean, even in your job, even other places, man, you change something and it's hard. And so part of me is wondering, you know. You know, as I said, I believe one of the reasons Jesus asked that question, because it was kind of one of those, well, duh, I'm sitting here at the pool just trying to wait for some angel to stir the water up and jump in. But, but I believe, I believe what J is getting at is. And I believe it goes a lot to our salvation spiritually, like you said, of realizing that we are destitute and hopeless and there is only one lifeline, and we got to cling to that. And, and I'm not sure if the man did or not. I, I. That this is, this is a miracle. That is kind of. It's, it's, it. This one has bogged my mind a little bit. [00:16:14] Speaker C: Well, you know, what about all those other people that were sitting here? [00:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:19] Speaker C: It's not recorded that Jesus healed then. [00:16:20] Speaker B: No, but I see it. Well, and that's one of the reasons that there was a large crowd there. I think Jesus peeled away because he wasn't about to have a healing service. [00:16:29] Speaker C: And I say that he heal everybody. [00:16:32] Speaker A: Was there ever a time that he, he did. He performed multiple miracles at the same time, the same place? I guess there's the one where the lady grabs his. [00:16:39] Speaker B: His and then he's on his way. I mean, if you look when I was. Yeah, for sure. [00:16:46] Speaker A: But I think, but that was one miracle. [00:16:47] Speaker B: And it's at that same one, though, when off the shore, when he gets off the boat on the shore, it says he had compassion on the crowd and healed them and healed many. So, so I'm sure there were times that he did do that. [00:17:01] Speaker C: Well, that was the purpose of him. [00:17:03] Speaker A: He. [00:17:03] Speaker C: Well, one, at least one of the purposes of him healing to show that he was the Messiah. [00:17:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Well, that's what Isaiah says it was. The lame or walking. The blind will see. I mean, it that's part of. [00:17:15] Speaker C: And this damn set free. It's almost like it's healing has really, you know, faith healers and all that have really taken it to a different level. [00:17:26] Speaker A: Well that's for sure. [00:17:28] Speaker C: If they. Yeah, they claim it but I doubt any of it's done or not much. You know, not through them because it becomes like oh, I'm the one that healed. You know, pride. I mean I believe God heals and he can heal you at a place where healers. [00:17:52] Speaker B: I don't know well and I think it's one of when you begin to look at healing and you know it happens. I mean Peter, James and John, this was happening after Jesus. So it wasn't just Jesus. His disciples were doing miracles. I think, I think you're right. I think a lot of it goes to all right, who's getting the credit. I think a lot of it goes to when there's a big show know about it. I'm, I'm a little reluctant of that in the fact of you. You're never going to see up on the marquee out there healing service. Y' all come inside at the same time. I do hold that. Matthew 5, 13, 14, 15, 16. Man, there's. There's power in prayer and that God can heal. God still in the healing business. I just, I just don't, I'm just not going to do it in front of everybody. That's like it needs to be one of okay, Lord, we're seeking your heart here. [00:18:42] Speaker C: But, but it. There's a lot of miracles that go on outside this country that we're not aware of. Oh my God. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Well and I think there's a lot. Yeah. Especially in third world countries and where the gospel is just, just new. A lot takes place. And I think we talked about that. I think we are in a scientific postmodern world that we just don't even oh you know, if we see a miracle, oh, it must have been some medicine or it must have been. [00:19:06] Speaker C: Well, I think one thing is we have a bunch of churches here already. And so being in a third world country, you don't have churches. And so with that in mind. Yeah. God does. More people have more faith. I would say the faith part is. But God reveals himself in a different way than he does with us. [00:19:30] Speaker B: I think so. [00:19:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:31] Speaker B: In different cultures, different everything. [00:19:34] Speaker C: So yeah. And that's why we don't see the so called raising on the dead or whatever with that. [00:19:45] Speaker B: If we see it, our first inclination. [00:19:47] Speaker C: Is oh yeah, that's AI degenerated. [00:19:52] Speaker B: I mean, really. And, and, and part of me wants to say, should we be that way? I don't know. I think we should be a little bit more open that God works in, in ways that we may not understand and do that, but we also need to be wise as serpents, harmless as those. [00:20:07] Speaker C: Yeah, we got to. What you're saying is we got to be balanced. Yeah. Can't go too far to the right or to the left. Then you get out of left. Yeah. When you start putting one thing over another and you know, you kind of tilt your, your theology one way, then you get out of balance. [00:20:28] Speaker B: Yeah, agree. And I think that's. [00:20:31] Speaker C: Well, thank you. [00:20:31] Speaker B: That's a good word for the day. Balance to a point. You know, how much is when Jesus says, love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body and soul. And when it's. When you seek me with your whole heart. You know, I don't know that there's, there's a balance of. [00:20:47] Speaker C: Well, I'm not talking about your relationship with God. [00:20:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:51] Speaker C: About your. More your theology and more and more. [00:20:53] Speaker B: Your theology and really how you relate to others and how you, how you go about things such as theology and how it works itself out. [00:21:02] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, you, you see all these denominations and most of the denominations are just went out on the, like one little verse. I think the Church of Christ don't believe in music. Right. One instruments. And it is in the Bible I can't put my hands on right now. One verse that all earth be silent. Yeah, it could be. But then you have a whole book that uses it. [00:21:27] Speaker B: It says play the lear, play the heart, play every instrument. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Yeah. So they're way out of balance on that. So they start another denomination. [00:21:35] Speaker B: And I think there's, you know, that goes to a lot of things. You know, when we go back to moderation and being like. Tonight I'm going to talk to the youth about. We're in a series called how not to waste your life or how to make your life count. That's what I wanted to do is how to make your life count as a teenager. And I've given them 10 points. So each week is a point. The first point was honor your parents, be a living sacrifice all these. And then tonight is. Last week was don't be a fool and how one stupid decision can impact your whole life. Tonight's is don't be lazy. And I'm going to talk to them about what laziness is versus there is such thing as rest because God gives us a seventh Day, a Sabbath day to rest. But also how do you that fine line between, okay, I'm not going to be lazy, but I'm also not going to be a, you know, workaholic that I disregard everything that else is important. So again, that middle ground moderation of. To where I do everything in my. Do all things for the glory of. [00:22:44] Speaker A: God, well, that's been a tough one for me lately. Last six 12 months and 18 months, some period of time, increasingly more so probably because working for myself, I don't have anybody telling me necessarily what to do all the time. [00:23:00] Speaker C: Right. [00:23:00] Speaker A: So I have to kind of dictate that myself now. But for me it's not laziness versus workaholic to me, it's this balance of I've got it written down somewhere, but when in fact it was. This was an old note I just happened to come across the other day. Sometimes to me, surrendering feels a little bit lazy because I feel like when I try to, when I'm working my butt off chasing every little idea that I've got, I end up feeling like I'm taking too much control and not following God. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Right. [00:23:30] Speaker A: And when I just kind of sit back and let him do. I don't know how to say it, but it's. Well, I know how to say it. When I let him do his thing, it's not as much work and more things get done and it's more, it accomplishes much more. [00:23:42] Speaker B: So it's like efficiency. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. So it's something that I've always, you know, I think we talked about a couple of shows ago that, you know, is it. I'm not going to feel bad or guilty because I spent an extra hour in the morning reading the Bible when I could have been doing something else. That's, that's not a difficult one. But there's other times it's like, okay, I did some little tweaks to the website this weekend, trying to change up the way I do some things. And rather than, you know, that used to be a five hour project, I mean I would go in and overhaul everything and make 15 different versions of it. And it took me 30 minutes the other night to go in and change this, change that, boom, that's good enough. You know, I'm not gonna, and I don't know if that's that because of skill or hardware, software or just not overthinking it. Just how, how simple can I make this and say what I need to say as quickly as I can and don't reinvent the wheel every time you do something that, and, but at the same time it's, you know, that can also feel like you're a little lazy or not working as much, you can't do enough. You're not doing, you didn't do enough, whatever. Especially American society. It's like you got to work yourself to the bone. We earned any. [00:24:54] Speaker C: All about the money. [00:24:55] Speaker A: That's right. [00:24:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:55] Speaker B: We're all about to push and to drive. [00:24:57] Speaker A: That's right. If you haven't worked hard enough, then you know, it's. That's something to feel guilty about or something in our society. [00:25:04] Speaker B: And. [00:25:04] Speaker A: But for me it really is. It's like there's a, a point where the harder I work, the less things work and the, the more control I take and the less I give to God. So there's that, you know, how much. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Of that is ties back to just taking a Sabbath rest, taking one day to where you're seeking the Lord above all else. You're not, you know, out doing and everything else. I mean, I'm, I'm just trying to. I'm just curious. That's a question for you. Because I'm, I'm. I didn't know if that's tied. Taking, taking that day to rest because I'm a. I'm a big proponent of. No. If God gave us that seventh day and modeled it for us that he rested, same thing. Now again, remember, God doesn't stop working. He doesn't slumber, he doesn't sleep. But at the same time that, that day of rest, because people are dying. People are born, born every day, even on a Sabbath. So I mean, it is not like he does. I mean that's what Jesus is going to really get in some hot water that really. I'm going to make a statement. Sunday, Jesus is sealing his doom with what he's saying in John chapter 5. Because it starts right there. He was on the Pharisees radar screen. But as soon as he says, no, my Father is working and I'm working with him. He made himself equal with God. So you could take the Sabbath out, but at the same time, it was the Sabbath that got him in. You know, they were so caught up in that rule that they missed a miracle. So I'm just curious because I do believe God intends for us not to work seven days a week like a machine. We're not. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Well, I think it's. It is, it's two different. They're very, very closely related. But to me that's almost two different questions in a way, one of them is the time and the effort that's going into it. And for that, I mean, I'm pretty good, I guess, about not working on Sunday and putting a lot of work. Usually Sunday is. It's, you know, it's church and then football and hanging out and I don't usually spend a whole lot of time. But if I need to, if I need to type an email real quick or do something like that, I do it. I'm not against it. But at the same time, from an effort standpoint, I think I probably follow the 6:1 cadence even in my daily routine to make sure that I've got. I've given myself a little bit of rest in the sense that, you know, whether it's, you know, I consider quiet time with the Lord or reading the Bible, that to be part of my rest there. So I try to make sure that that's a part of my daily and not just one day a week, but then on the other side of it, even when I am working, I still, you know, I don't know whether it's, you know, trying to take time to include him in all of that or what it is. But you know, sometimes to me, y' all might not count it this way, but I feel like going on a one hour walk to talk to God before I type an email is technically still on the clock. You know what I mean? Like, that may not look necessarily like I'm on the clock to the outside world, but to me that's, you know, that's more important than me. [00:27:56] Speaker B: I'd rather say I would almost count that as rest, depending on how hard you're walking. I reckon I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be a Pharisee here, but to me, taking a walk and just, you know, being with the Lord, that's getting away from all the, you know, hubbub. Even though I know I know you and I know me know, Kenny, that in the back of my mind, even when I am resting or just taking it easy, back of my mind is I need to call such and such. I need to go and do this. [00:28:23] Speaker A: Well, by that definition, I never rest the back of your mind except at. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Night when my eyes. [00:28:28] Speaker A: That's right. But it's just been funny to me how, you know, there's something. I noticed this this week, actually, not to go on a tangent, but there was something that I'd spent probably a year working really, really hard on and I hadn't touched it in a year. This, I mean, I Just like, I got to a point around the first of this year that I was just like, I'm done with this. I'm going to focus on something else. And have not even looked at that in a year. And I went back and looked and that website that I haven't touched has had more visitors this year than the one that I've been actively working and promoting. And I'm just like, how'd that happen? Because I haven't, I've literally not touched. Had been so long since I touched it that the other day I was like, I need to go back to the website and make this little change. I went back and looked. I was like, oh, I'd already done that a year ago. I forgot I'd done that. But it's had more visitors than the other website in the last year. So that's kind of the example of, of what I'm talking about. Sometimes the harder I work, the more I mess things up. So, okay, I don't want to just sit around to be a monk and wait and look at my bank account and see if there's any money in it at the end of the year either. So there's a balance there. But to me though, it's working harder. Does not. It is counterproductive. To me, it feels like if, if you look at it in a sense of maybe not time and effort, but my efforts versus leaning on God for it, but just sitting back and saying I'm gonna trust God, that sounds lazy to me and everybody else, you know, so it's. I don't know, it's. You have to have some extra. You have to do your part lucky. [00:29:54] Speaker C: Is what you're saying. Kind of. [00:29:57] Speaker A: I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of times I'd rather take the reins. Most of the time I'd rather. [00:30:03] Speaker C: Absolutely. Sure. But I'm just saying that's what people. When you say trusting God, people think a happy go, lucky type of person or just don't. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Don't have any response. [00:30:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I have no motive. [00:30:14] Speaker A: I don't think anybody's putting the lucky on me. And I don't know, that depends on the day. [00:30:19] Speaker C: That's how. I'm sure that's how a lot of people that are not involved in religion. [00:30:24] Speaker B: No, maybe, yeah. Kumbaya or it's, you know. [00:30:28] Speaker C: Well, it is what it is. It's going to happen. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And, and if you're not, if you, if you don't walk by faith, that sounds absolutely crazy. I mean, that's that's kind of one of the things you're doing out there to the world. [00:30:39] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:30:41] Speaker B: You know, you almost. You got your head in the sand or you got your head in the clouds. [00:30:44] Speaker C: We see spiritually. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's. [00:30:46] Speaker A: What you said a minute ago. [00:30:47] Speaker C: It's. [00:30:48] Speaker A: I think it's putting it into. Into practice. [00:30:51] Speaker C: It's. [00:30:52] Speaker A: It's one thing to say, I'm going to trust in the Lord with all my heart and I'm going to let. And I'm going to, you know, truly trust in his divine power. What does that look like in action? Yeah, that can be. That's where it gets really gray and fuzzy and hard to figure out one day to the next. Because some days that does mean just saying, do your thing and get me out of your way. Other times it's not that way. And I'm not saying the other times. [00:31:14] Speaker B: Is I got to bust my child. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Right. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Trying to find. Talk about balance. That's something I've been trying to figure out how to balance for a couple of years now. [00:31:23] Speaker C: I just. Yeah, I remember I tr. When I was at work, when I was working in. In Raleigh, and I always made a point of living in Raleigh. I mean, working outside where I lived, because once I left work, I didn't want anything to do with it. But that was my theory. That's not actually happening. [00:31:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say, but good luck with that. [00:31:45] Speaker C: Yeah, but. But it did happen in some sense. Like, I never really talked about work when I was home. Not that I was doing anything. I just. It just didn't come up. And then when I got my truck, I zeroed in what I had to do for that day. But now I will say this. I solved a lot of problems with my sleep. So I was thinking about it, you know. You know what I'm saying? Well, I had thought about all day long how I'm just so confused. [00:32:12] Speaker B: And then, yeah, I know that. [00:32:14] Speaker C: I know what to do now. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Well, you joke about that, but there was something. There was one day that I. I can't remember which day it was or what the deal was with it, but I ended up taking a nap midday to the middle of the week. I was just exhausted and I just laid down from. I didn't have anything really going on that day. I was like, well, okay, I could sit here and try to invent something to do, or I could just get some rest. And in the hour that I was sleeping, whatever, I woke up and I had all. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Some. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Some cool ideas that I hadn't thought I was like, oh, maybe I should do this, maybe. And it's like I actually did solve some things while I was resting. And that is something that happens a lot. [00:32:46] Speaker C: Happens a lot to me. [00:32:47] Speaker A: And to me, I feel like that it's not easy to take your foot off the gas and say, I'm going to trust this to God. But I have found for me that the less I do that, the worse things go because it's. The more control. I. Maybe I haven't figured out how to work hard and trust God at the same time. It's like I got to do one or the other, but whenever I get my hands on something, I start taking control of it and I kind of forget to seek him in that process. And then all I do is waste. [00:33:12] Speaker B: A bunch of time. [00:33:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I know what you're saying, because I used to just get absorbed by it. Yeah. That's all I thought about doing, you know, trying to solve this. And. And we were put on this earth to work. Adam tended the garden. What if he did? I don't know that. I don't think he did much hoeing and pulling weeds. [00:33:32] Speaker B: No, but he still had tend to guard. [00:33:34] Speaker C: Yeah, something. I'm not sure. There's not enough information for me to know what he did. We just know he worked. [00:33:40] Speaker B: It was a lot easier. [00:33:41] Speaker C: But in our life, we just kind of. We get out of balance. We just go. We do work too much or. Or not enough or. [00:33:49] Speaker A: Or in the wrong period too. I think sometimes, I mean, I, I actually. This is a terrible thing to say, but I had. I took inventory the other day of how much time I spend in the car driving kids somewhere. When I added it up, I was like, oh, grief. No wonder I don't have time to get anything done. I spend 15 hours a week on. [00:34:04] Speaker B: 401 in the car. [00:34:05] Speaker A: I mean, does that. So does that count as work or does that count as laziness or not getting. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Definitely risk. [00:34:10] Speaker A: I don't know how to get an eight hour day in because I never have eight hours uninterrupted without having to take somebody somewhere. So does that. Where does that fall on the pie chart of how I've spent my time that ain't work or risk. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Oh, you know, well, I think. But that's a necessity. And I think that's one of those things that you. Sometimes you need to do an evaluation of. Okay. What is some. I. No matter what happens, I'm still going to take kids to school. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Can I find a neighbor that maybe we Carpool or share. Okay. That may reduce some of the time, but it's still a necessity. The kids have to be taken to school. Kids have to be taken to practice. I think, I think a honest evaluation is looking at your life and some of, some of the things that we do and saying, all right, is that a necessity? And I'm going to talk a little bit tonight with the youth about, you know, you won't put here dead scroll. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:59] Speaker B: And. And hour upon hour, I heard a report today that one of the new trends on Tik Tok is people will film themselves being bored doing nothing. And people are watching that. [00:35:10] Speaker C: So fully set, you know. [00:35:13] Speaker B: How, How? I mean, really, we. [00:35:15] Speaker A: We're watching. [00:35:16] Speaker B: That's the end of civilization, I believe. [00:35:17] Speaker A: We're watching other people be bored. That's a. Yeah, that's a new. [00:35:24] Speaker B: I mean, and they are, they're, they're doing it purposely that they are not reading books, not looking at stuff. They're just filming themselves being bored for, you know, time. And then people are watching that people are watching. [00:35:34] Speaker A: It is even worse. [00:35:35] Speaker C: I mean, that's the bad part. Yeah. That you would feel entertained by it. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Yeah. But it is. I mean, we are. And you think people are just sitting there scrolling through, looking at stuff that it's like, man, you were not put here just to watch tick tock videos. And again, I have a. There are times when I'm with the youth that I'm like, man, I know they think I am the oldest man in the world and just. But really what, what I'm doing is I'm telling them things that I told my kids when they were teenagers of, look, man, this will matter. These things matter. And whether you want to believe me or not, I don't know. But I just don't want to see you shoot yourself in the foot. I don't want to see yourself do something crazy. [00:36:17] Speaker C: I think it's like all you. I include myself at that time. But your parents don't know nothing. [00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:23] Speaker C: Then you realize, hey, they might have been right on a lot of things. Yeah. So I think it's a maturity thing. [00:36:30] Speaker A: I don't know. I also think that the gap. There's always been that gap between the parents and the kids. But I'm not sure if there's ever been a wider gap. And maybe it's just because I'm. This is the first time I've been that age around the older generation, looking back down at the younger ones. But my parents, I know, didn't understand everything in my generation. Their parents didn't understand everything about theirs. But I have absolutely no clue what. I'm not talking about my kids specifically. I'm just looking at what they do. That 6, 7 thing is about me. [00:37:01] Speaker B: Absolutely. No, that's. Absolutely. [00:37:03] Speaker A: And I. And they. I keep bugging them about it, and, you know, there was some video floating around that it was demonic. And Reese asked me the other day, is it. Is it demonic? I said, I don't know if it is or not. I said, but said, what does it mean? She said, it doesn't mean anything. I said, sat alone, like, it's just. [00:37:17] Speaker B: A waste of words. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Then if it doesn't mean anything, then stop saying it, because I just don't get it. [00:37:22] Speaker C: We just gravitate to something. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And. But you're right. I mean, the. The concept that we would just sit around and watch other people be bored. Yeah. [00:37:30] Speaker B: I mean, it's amazing to me how. And look, I. There's some folks I know that are trying their best become Internet famous because they want to get paid for doing nothing. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:37:41] Speaker B: And I'm like, come on, what's it called? Influencers. [00:37:44] Speaker A: Ye. [00:37:44] Speaker C: Influencers. Yeah. [00:37:45] Speaker B: And again, that was the start that I said, boy, it's a sorry world. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:50] Speaker B: And I mean, you got people making millions watching a video game or. And I'm like, oh, you got to be kidding me. So, all that being said, I sound like old man yelling at clouds. I know, but it's one of those of. I think it's a great time of year. November, Thanksgiving, to evaluate one. Okay. Is my work schedule such that I never break break, or is your leisure schedule one of. Man, you. I could be doing some things better with my time. Yeah. And I think both of them involve how you use one of the precious, most precious commodities we have, which is time. You can spend it working yourself to death and miss the Lord and miss your family, or you can waste it away doing nothing and miss the Lord and miss your family. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker B: You know, so. And again, I don't know that there's an answer that says, okay, it's got to be this. I think it goes back to, that's between you and the Lord and seeking the Lord and saying, lord, search my heart, search my. Search my schedule. And, Lord, is it that? Man, I'm spending, you know, three hours a day watching TV when I should be doing something else or could be doing something else. Yeah. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Well, I think we talked about it one time before. There was a. There was some day that I felt like, man, I've not gotten anything done today. I've been so lazy. And I went back and added up, up from the time I got up to whatever time that was. What had I done? And it was like, okay, no, I haven't actually been lazy. I've just been going all over the place, doing 87 different things. I never got to the thing that I wanted to do. So sometimes you got to take that inventory. Now, there's other times that you could do that same exercise and say, oh, I watch football for seven hours. [00:39:25] Speaker C: That's why. [00:39:27] Speaker B: Easy. But don't go to meddling. [00:39:31] Speaker C: Well, you know, that brings me to a question that I, that I have. Like you said, what is balance? And all this that we're talking about? And it comes to this, how can we. Because we obviously, I've never met anybody be perfect as the Father is in heaven. Why did Jesus say that when none of us are perfect and none of us will be perfect while we're here? Why did he say that? He said that knowing that none of us could attain that right, but we. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Are made righteous through his blood. [00:40:06] Speaker C: Well, we're perfect that way. [00:40:07] Speaker B: We're justified that way. So that. That counts there. But I think it's. [00:40:11] Speaker C: Or am I looking at the wrong. [00:40:13] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. I'm just saying I just want the folks to understand that, you know, the listeners, that, okay, we're saved by grace through faith, but it's still work out your own salvation. So there is a measure of, yes, I'm saved by grace, but there is a measure of, I got to put effort in this thing and grow, grow. But I'm also growing by the Holy Spirit. So there's a. There's a balance there. It seems like that's. That's kind of the theme of the day. There's a balance there between, okay, I gotta put forward effort. I'll put it this way. I know I'm not gonna grow as a Christian if I'm not partaking. So that means I gotta put forward the effort to read now. At the same time, I know the Holy Spirit can help me to learn and grow and know, but it. Apart from God's word, it's not gonna happen. So I gotta put in time there. So working out your own salvation. But I believe what Jesus is getting at there is there needs to be a striving to, to want to become more conformed to the image of Christ, to be more sanctified, because that's the will of God for your life. Is your sanctification to become more like Christ So to tell me to become, to be holy just as I am holy, there needs to be that. Striving for that. I won't never be, but doggone it should be that we're striving for that. [00:41:22] Speaker C: Or what you just said or did Jesus mean it spiritually? [00:41:27] Speaker B: I think it's a little both. [00:41:28] Speaker C: Yes. Because a lot of times you it. What Jesus says is not what he means. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Right. [00:41:32] Speaker C: You know, I mean, I know the Jews had a hard time. I have a hard time to understanding, you know, if you, if your right hand offends, you cut it off. Who does that? Yeah, you know, I, I'm assuming he was talking about. [00:41:48] Speaker A: But the ser. [00:41:49] Speaker B: The seriousnesses of, of striving against sin I think is what he's striving at. [00:41:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:54] Speaker B: And actually I think I'd take that almost as being the other as well. [00:41:58] Speaker C: But I'm just saying if somebody first read the Bible, you read Jesus teachings, they're hard. [00:42:03] Speaker B: True, they are. [00:42:04] Speaker C: I love to read them, but I love the stories. But you know, cut your hand off, be as perfect as God. Love your neighbor, Love your neighbor. Love God with all your heart. Well, I thought I was just of my parents or you my family. Yeah, no, they don't matter. Who is your family? [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah, who can eat of my flesh? Who can. I mean Jesus got some hard heart sayings for sure. [00:42:25] Speaker C: You are my brothers who can turn the other cheek, not his real biological. [00:42:31] Speaker B: Brothers and sisters who can rejoice in pain. [00:42:33] Speaker C: So we, I tend to, although when I first got saved, I read this as literally, but as I've grown, I always, when I hear Jesus say something like that, I try to apply it spiritually but I in my mind and that's hard for me to do apply that spiritually because like when Jesus says be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect. Spiritually I'm not. Or physically I'm not. But salvation I am. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Well, and that's part of growing who you are in Christ. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:12] Speaker C: A lot of people that read the Bible or think they read the Bible or heard. Most of people that aren't saved have heard about the Bible and a lot of things that they've heard about the Bible is not what the Bible actually says. [00:43:26] Speaker A: There's a whole lot of sayings in everyday society that people don't realize are from the Bible. There's also a lot of things that people think are in the Bible that aren't really. [00:43:34] Speaker C: That's what. [00:43:35] Speaker A: But I hear the Bible quoted all the time in everyday secular language. They just don't realize that they're quoting the Bible. Pride goeth before the fall. Everybody says that one from the Bible. Everybody that's in the Bible, right? It certainly is but there's a lot of those that an interesting one on that I I googled this the other day. I have not actually read all 66 books looking for this phrase to confirm it but I did a quick Google search to make sure is the term is the phrase free will ever actually in the Bible that you know of such a huge concept we talk about all the time and it clearly demonstrates the phrase itself. But the phrase itself I don't think is in there. [00:44:14] Speaker C: I didn't think so. [00:44:15] Speaker A: So and it's not to say that free will isn't it it certainly talks about and it certainly, you know if you read the Bible it free will is obvious in it. Right. But the term free will for as much as we talk about it in faith to not I know I've never seen it because it's one of those things like I want to find a verse on free will but I don't. [00:44:32] Speaker C: Well this is a translation. Is it in the Hebrew or in the Greek? [00:44:37] Speaker B: This is. I don't think you're going to have it. I really don't. [00:44:41] Speaker A: AI says you don't. I did a quick search but I. [00:44:45] Speaker C: Was wondering so she knows but it's. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Not going to be the same. I mean, I mean that's, I mean he, it's obvious. He says come unto me choose this day whom you will serve. I mean there's choice but as far as free will and how we are interpreting free will we're trying to take a turn from today and fit it into a pre church and that's not. [00:45:06] Speaker C: What you Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. The rapture's not meant well. Is the rapture mentioned in the Bible Snatching. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not a rapture. [00:45:14] Speaker C: A plenty I ripped them written in the Bible. Tobacco is not written in the Bible. Drugs is not written in the Bible. [00:45:20] Speaker B: There's a lot but those first ones for sure Trinity, you know, rapture. Those are terms that is fine. They've become part of our lingo and we understand it and it's there but that word is not used phrase itself. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Yeah you got to be careful with that to to not make it say well since this isn't in the Bible therefore it's not that I've heard that on a lot. It does make it challenging when you want to say I want to see what the Bible I want to look up a verse that talks about free will or give me a verse that explains the Trinity. If you're looking for that word, you won't find it. It's. It's. It's implied in the text in different ways. And that's where there's some inferring, I guess, that has to. To take place to be able to get to that. [00:46:01] Speaker B: That's right. And that's really what theology is. It's. It's pulling from here, here, and here and putting it all together. So when you have a theology of God. Yeah, you. Or a theology of Christ, three main passages, you've got or four Hebrews, one Colossians, one Philippians two, several that you would take and pull all these in and you can begin to put it together. Then you begin to look at, okay, what did he say in John 5 with I and my father are one or not? Not that, but I'm work. My father's working, and I'm working, too. You know, okay, what, how, what, how. Why did the Jews go to that length to say, whoa, he's equating himself with. Because all I see is, well, my father's working and so am I. To the Jews, that meant something more. Yeah. And so theology is pulling in all those texts and then putting it together to form a picture. And so, yeah, that's why you can't just pull one verse here. You've got to have what's called the whole counsel of God's word and understand. Okay, now you're putting this interlocking piece of Mark with this interlocking piece of Philippians to understand what it means to be a servant. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Well, and back to that term balance, too. I think whether you're talking, because I know we've talked before about, you got to be careful not to get so hung up in the weeds of these deep theological concepts that you missed the obvious ones. Right. And we've talked a lot about balance today in this podcast. But you can go about it and saying, well, yes, I need to balance loving God with all my heart with honoring my father and my mother, with loving my neighbor as myself, with keeping the Leviticus diet, and start to list off all these legalistic checklists of things that you have to do and balancing all those things. I think that would be the wrong way of looking at it. [00:47:48] Speaker C: Right. [00:47:50] Speaker A: Or you can say, yes, I need to put God first in my life, but make sure that I leave time for my work, make sure I leave time for my family, make sure I balance those types of things out. I Think that there's a lot of wrong ways to approach balance. Maybe what I'm maybe proposing or saying or whatever is that the putting, love Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself at the absolute top and putting. If you put 99.9% of your energy into that and then trusted the Lord to guide you in all of the other 87,000 commandments in the Bible and all the other different ways we can balance our lives, correctly or incorrectly, that's going to work out a lot better than trying to figure out for yourself how to create that balance. How to. Because there's some tough applications of the Bible. [00:48:40] Speaker C: Right. [00:48:41] Speaker A: We see all the time. There's one interpretation, many applications. [00:48:43] Speaker B: Right. [00:48:44] Speaker A: There are some situations where it's really hard to know how to apply this particular verse for this particular scenario. [00:48:50] Speaker B: No doubt. [00:48:50] Speaker C: Right. [00:48:51] Speaker A: If you try to do that yourself, you're not going anywhere with that. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Well, and there's always gray area. Where we live in this world, there's gray area. And I mean, we can go down the gray area. Trap or map here in just a minute. But what I. I've done it on the show before, but I think it's imperative that we do it today. [00:49:09] Speaker A: We. [00:49:09] Speaker B: We do it like this. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body and soul. Then we rank. Okay. Then my relationship with my spouse and my kids, then. Then it's my relationship with. I insert blank, right. Spouse, parents. Then. Then it becomes work. Then it becomes. That's not the way to do it. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:25] Speaker B: It's this way. And love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body and soul is over that. And so that in every relationship I have, I'm making it my goal. My heart's desire to please the Lord. My heart's desire is to bring honor and glory to God in the way I love my wife, in the way that I. Pastor. In the way that I. So it's this governing all of that. So rather than ranking it, if it's here and this is governing it, it makes it a whole lot different than that. It puts more emphasis on, okay, I know what my purpose is. I know what my. I mean, every company has a purpose statement. You know, this is what. And it keeps people focused on. This is what we're about. Yeah. And if we get those two. And I think that's why Jesus said on this hinges, the law, the prophet. This is the. The whole Old Testament written in two phrases. Love God, love others. [00:50:20] Speaker A: Well, and that's what we talked about last night on the Zoom Bible study that about a lot of different things. But one of the things that we said was that the Gospel itself is a. Is fairly simple to explain and at the, at a high level, once you accept that and spirit starts to work in your life, it can become incredibly difficult to actually that striving to be more like Jesus. That sanctification process is. It's a never ending process and you eventually get to a point where you realize you're never going to. To perfect. [00:50:51] Speaker B: And there's nothing easy about taking up your cross and dying. [00:50:54] Speaker A: No, there's something about that though. Glad you mentioned that. For that particular passage I think I mentioned a few shows ago that I'm having. I have a hard time reconciling that when God. What is. Is there a passage that actually specifically says when the Lord sees us, he sees Christ? Is that, I mean crucified Christ. [00:51:14] Speaker B: There's a lot of you got. Yeah, but I'm talking about as far as righteousness. I mean I don't know. I don't know that it puts it into that account or those words as much as it does. We've been credited with his righteousness, maybe that yeah, he made him a new sin. Become righteousness on our behalf that we might become or it be sin on our behalf that we might become the righteousness of God. [00:51:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:37] Speaker A: And I'm thinking like Romans 8 were adopted co heirs with Christ and there's. There's verses like that that you can kind of. [00:51:42] Speaker B: And there's some in Romans 5 which talks about righteousness and justification. [00:51:46] Speaker A: Right. [00:51:46] Speaker B: But as far as using that term. [00:51:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:48] Speaker B: I don't know that it's going to say, you know, he sees. I think that's how we explain it maybe. Yeah. [00:51:54] Speaker A: So for, for me that's a tough concept to. Because when I think of how God sees me, all I think of is his mercy and his grace to not see me. Well, I assume he still sees me as I really am. He just forgives me anyway. [00:52:08] Speaker B: You know what you, what you can be. I think that's the part I don't. [00:52:13] Speaker A: Maybe, maybe that's the part I'm missing a little bit because it's hard for me to understand. I know we talked about this a few shows ago, but how he could. He can put up with me, much less love me. [00:52:23] Speaker C: Right. [00:52:23] Speaker A: But there is something that I thought about with that is that we always take the Pick up your cross and die daily. Crucify with Christ, Bear it. When you do baptisms, Christianity is right. And dying to self is how you can be adopted as righteous through Christ because the more of yourself that dies and the more you become like Christ, the less. I think sometimes we like to carry that old self around our back pocket and it comes out a little bit. And even whether we want it to or we. Whether that's what we have a hard time forgiving ourselves. [00:52:57] Speaker B: It's always hanging out. [00:52:58] Speaker A: Right. [00:52:59] Speaker B: The flesh is there. Right. [00:53:01] Speaker A: But the more of that we can, the more we can get rid of the old self. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:53:06] Speaker A: It's like you said, we want to be less of me, more of Christ. In a perfect world, none of me, all of Christ. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:53:11] Speaker A: So that dying to self is where it starts to make a little bit more sense, I guess, to me, the being adopted. Because at some point when we are fully sanctified, we will be like Christ. We will have that same righteousness on us. I don't. I don't understand exactly how that, what that means in. The more you try to keep the old secular self around, the more it's going to be difficult to understand how God forgives you and loves you because you're still hanging out with the, with the old self. Or the more you're hanging on to sins of the past, the more difficult it can be to see how he. [00:53:50] Speaker B: Has that love for you because he loves you, period. Right. So it's not about. Okay. I think what happens is we may not be walking in and experiencing that love, but he loves you. That doesn't change. But I think the closeness to him and the freshness of that love and the freshness of that relationship, the more junk you have and the more the old self is there. And I think we've almost come full circle in a way. We started out talking about our time and all this, that and the other. But if we really want to talk about, you know, what does it mean to be like Christ? I don't see. And again, I could be wrong. I see Christ functioning totally different in this world than anything we do. I don't think when, you know, here, case in point, John, chapter 11. I know how I would have acted as soon as I heard Lazarus is sick. Boys, mount up the horses we got to roam he waited around four days. And now again, did he have a connection with God that was, you know, second to none? Probably. I mean, he was perfect son of God that told him, no, this is going to be a healing that's going to be one of the crown jewels of I'm going to raise the dead versus, you know, I would have tried my best to get there in a hurry because, well, I'm more governed by the clock and everything else than I am some of the other things. [00:55:19] Speaker A: At that time in, in his human form, did Jesus have 100% clarity that. Of what was going to happen next at that, when he said, I'm, you know, I'm not going to go right now? [00:55:32] Speaker B: When he decided not to, he limited himself. I mean, but he tells the disciples, no, this is, this is going to be for God's glory. I mean, he knows that something, something's afoot there. [00:55:43] Speaker A: So if he. He says it'll be for God's glory, that can. That leaves an interesting gray area to discuss, I guess. Yes, it ultimately was for God's glory, but he knew that at that time and he acted correctly, as he always did, and it did play out exactly that way. But did he know specific detail? And I don't know the answer to this necessarily, but did he know the specific details of what it was going to be for God's glory? He just only gave us that vague answer, or was he going on faith at that point and just said, it's going to be for God's glory? I don't know exactly how he's going to do it. [00:56:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I. To be honest with you, I don't. I'm sure there's somebody who would give. Try to give you an answer on that. But my answer to that would be, I'm not, I'm not exactly sure we know that. [00:56:24] Speaker A: Sure. [00:56:25] Speaker B: But I mean, one, he limited himself, meaning he. He laid aside some of those attributes of God that he had shared with God. He got tired. He got, you know, had. Got hungry, got tired, he got sleepy. Yeah, everything. He was tempted, like us in every way. I don't believe, although there are times, you read the Gospels, he could see what was in men's heart or he understood what was in men's heart. So I think he had a keener insight, but I still think he was still limited, that he knew every detail. Did he know he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead? I don't know. I mean, because sometimes, sometimes the way he talks to Mary and Martha, I don't know that he. Maybe he did know it and he was just helping their faith. And I think that's the, the mystery, if you will, that sometimes when Jesus, I mean, he. Did Jesus know he was going to heal this miserable, unnamed man in John 5? Probably so. But he still asked the question, simple. [00:57:24] Speaker A: Really simple question there. So I guess I never really thought of Jesus needing to have faith, you assume? [00:57:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:57:32] Speaker A: We all have to have faith. Jesus didn't need faith. He was Jesus. He was God. He knew these things. He didn't need faith. [00:57:37] Speaker C: Faith. [00:57:38] Speaker A: But did he, in the human form, need to have faith? [00:57:41] Speaker B: I believe that. And my. My argument would be. Would be in Peter, there's a verse that says he kept entrusting himself to. To. To the Father. Yeah. So when he went to the cross, I think when you see especially the. The prime example of this would be probably gardening Gethsemane. Yeah. That's faith. He's wrestling. Yeah. Because if he were. [00:58:03] Speaker A: If he were fully God in that, like, I mean, not that's. That gets Trinity again, but if in that moment he had all of his divine attributes, then he would have not. I don't know if. [00:58:14] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:58:14] Speaker A: You could say he would have wrestled with it or not. [00:58:16] Speaker B: Well, I think he's wrestling with it in the fact of man. He's still. I mean, because you'd see him saying, you know, lord, if there's any other way, take this cup from me. Right. But not my will, but yours. I. I think that is the Holy Spirit enabling him to do that. I think that those temptations that Satan threw at him early on, I think those were shortcuts he could have took. And you know what? We're not sure how much he was tempted by him. We know how he responded, but I'm not sure if they might have held a little bit of a glimmer or a little bit of a, ooh, I'm wrestling with it. We don't know that. But at the same time, he had the wherewithal and the strength to trust the Lord to say, that's a shortcut I could take. But that's not what the Father wants. [00:58:58] Speaker A: We know what his answers were. We don't know how difficult it was for him to give those answers. We know what his actions were, but we don't know how difficult it was for him to. To do them. [00:59:06] Speaker B: I mean, and. And again, I'm not saying that he even remotely considered it. [00:59:10] Speaker C: Right. [00:59:11] Speaker B: I'd love to think he was immediately. But there's a part of me that. I don't know if he was tempted. [00:59:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:17] Speaker B: It had to have been sitting there. [00:59:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:19] Speaker C: Yeah. I think. And I like what you said that, you know, he gave up a lot of his godly qualities with that. I think. I think Jesus, you know, like me, I know I'm saved. I know that I'm going to heaven, but when there are times when I Had to question it, although I know it. Or there are times that I'm sure that Jesus had things to go on like that there were times that, where, you know, he'd been in heaven all of his life. I are, I mean, which. I don't know what that means other than there's endless. But there were times because he had that human form that he was probably in his situation like the night before the crucifixion, that he struggled with that believe. But go ahead. [01:00:10] Speaker B: The verse I was talking about is First Peter, chapter two, and it is verse 21, and it's actually that whole paragraph. For you have been called for this purpose because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example so that you would follow in his steps. He who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in his mouth. And while being abusively insulted, he did not insult in return. While suffering, he did not threaten, but kept entrusting himself to him who judges rightly. And he himself bought our sins in his body up on the cross so that we might die to sin and live for righteousness. By his wounds, you were healed. So there it is. I mean, he had to operate in faith as well. [01:00:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:56] Speaker B: Because. Yeah, you, you, you are being insulted, you're being persecuted, you're being beaten within an inch of your life and you're going to be nailed to a tree. Yeah, he, he, he, he wrestled. [01:01:07] Speaker C: He said he put his faith in action. Yeah. You know. [01:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:11] Speaker C: Kept in turn the other cheese. And I believe he was tempted. And I, I don't know if there's, there's probably not a scripture on that, but he was tempted and he's our example. If he wasn't tempted as a piece of cake, then he wouldn't really be our example. We had to struggle. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that's Hebrews 4:15. [01:01:30] Speaker A: I think we, we know that he limited himself. I think maybe it's easy. That can be a tough one to interpret, frankly, because we don't know the true power of God. We can't comprehend exactly how much he gave up because we can't comprehend what he was in heaven or what he. You know what? We don't know the gap there because we don't know. We know he limited himself somehow, but I think it's, I've always maybe just taken that as well. Yeah, he limited himself because he became human flesh. Yeah, he limited himself. He got hungry. Yeah, he limited him, but he still knew everything and had all the power. [01:02:03] Speaker C: And all that knew what was going to happen. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah, he always knew exactly what was going to happen next. And he always. But a lot of it, at least potentially. We don't know how much he limited himself. [01:02:14] Speaker B: Right. [01:02:15] Speaker A: So, you know, when he stands up on the boat and says, hush be steel. And did he know that was going to work? I guess he did. That's what, you know, true faith, I guess is. That is the, it's knowing, knowing without knowing. I don't know if that's the way I say anything. [01:02:29] Speaker B: And it's one of those things of, that's where that relationship of hearing from God and knowing that, hey, I'm on, you know, this is going to happen or I'm going to do this. I've seen people who really, I mean, man, when people walk by faith, it is, I don't want to say they, it's almost like they know the future, etc, but it's like, man, they, they. Well, case in point, I was on a mission trip and I may have shared this before, but I was on a mission trip in Kentucky with a guy that. I'm going to tell you what he. If it was ever a person that walked by faith, it was him. It was almost like every day he woke up. He didn't have an agenda, he had a ministry, but his agenda was God, what do you want today? And somebody called him with a. I mean, we were riding around Kentucky with a truckload of potatoes because somebody had given it to him. And he said, we were trying to find a place for these things. And finally he said, you know what? Feel like the Lord's telling me I need to drive up here. You want to ride with me? I said, yeah, drove up there and lo and behold, there was somebody who was kneading potatoes, you know, and I was, I mean, I just sitting there, I said, well, that's, that's the Lord in action. George Mueller is an example. And I would advise anybody who wants to read some fascinating, fascinating stuff on prayer and dependence. It was George Mueller. George Mueller had an orphanage. And there were times when we don't have bread to feed every kid. They just go pray and a bread truck would break down in front of them. I mean, that is the. We call it miraculous, but that's, that's the walking by faith of God provided. [01:04:02] Speaker A: When you talked about how Jesus was unlike anybody else. And if you look at the way he spent his time, that man that, that you're talking about in Kentucky, I guarantee you to. The average person appears to be insane. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:15] Speaker A: You know what I mean? I don't mean to be quite some. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Rude about it today and not have a. [01:04:20] Speaker A: You don't have a plan. You don't have, you know, you're not scared. [01:04:23] Speaker B: You're not. [01:04:23] Speaker A: Whatever. [01:04:24] Speaker C: But, you know, I think the average Christian probably too. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good, especially really good Christian. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, when we try to. When we think about modeling our lives and model, you know, and trying to be more like Christmas, I always have thought about that and the actions he took. Maybe more than the faith that he had or the relationship he had. If there's something we should be trying to model ourselves after, it is the closeness that he had with the Father and that relationship that he had. [01:04:50] Speaker C: That's right. [01:04:51] Speaker B: Because I don't know that he's calling me to feed 5,000 with fishes and bread at the same time. I think he is calling me to that closeness to where. Yeah, why not see things happen or depending upon him for our daily bread, those kind of things. So I think you're right. [01:05:09] Speaker C: I think a lot of us Christians think Jesus had an easy time here on earth, but the scriptures say he didn't. He was tempted like everybody. He didn't have an easy time. He had a hard time. But we think of him as. Because he actually did what he came here to do. We think that Jesus had no problem with, you know, being perfect or anything. I think he did. [01:05:30] Speaker B: No, I mean, it wasn't like he had an easy life, number one. You know, didn't grow up in Duncan. That's right. Didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth. You know, I don't know that it was necessarily easy life, but I think he shows us what a joyful life is even in the midst of hard times or persecution or suffering. [01:05:51] Speaker A: Well, even in the suffering. He foretold his death and burial and resurrection. [01:05:58] Speaker C: But I don't mean. [01:06:00] Speaker A: Did he even know the extent of the suffering that he was going, maybe especially the spiritual suffering that he was going to go through there. I mean, it's. It's one thing to know it's going to be hard. It's another thing to know exactly how hard it's going to be. Yeah. And I don't know, other than knowing for sure that he was going to be crucified and was going to be resurrected. He clearly knew that part of it. [01:06:20] Speaker C: He knew what you're saying. If he didn't necessarily know the details, detail. [01:06:23] Speaker A: But did he know how bad it was going to be? Did he know what he was signing up for? [01:06:27] Speaker B: Did he? [01:06:28] Speaker A: Because that's. That can be, you Know, again, this is purely hypothetical. I guess we don't know. But, I mean, I think he did. [01:06:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:35] Speaker A: You think he knew exactly the. The pain, what it was going to be. [01:06:38] Speaker B: Okay, I go all the way Back to Genesis 3. [01:06:42] Speaker C: You. [01:06:43] Speaker B: You will bruise his heel, but he will crush your head. That's a picture of. All right, I'm going to send a seed. And crushing or biting his heel is crucifixion. Crushing his head is the defeat of the enemy. Jesus said numerous times, you know, didn't come to be served, but to serve and to give my life as a ransom for the many. How many times did he tell his disciples, I'm going to be crucified, but I'm going to rise again on third day. And they sat there with. They didn't get it. [01:07:14] Speaker A: But did he know the extent of the knowing? You're going to be crucified, you know, you're going to suffer. That's a given. Did he know the extent of the suffering? Did he know the extent of the beatings? Did he know the extent of the spiritual suffering that he was. [01:07:27] Speaker B: I would say. I would say yes. But his. I don't know. That the physical suffering was what drove him in the garden to pray, what he prayed. I think it's the spiritual suffering he knew was coming. To have all. Every sin, your sin, my sin, Kenny's sin, every sin laid upon him. To have the whole of God poured out on him, to know that he was bearing man. My sin is enough. But the sins of the world. Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. I mean, he's having all that upon him. I think that's what was. I'm not. I'm not. I'm sure the physical had some part of it, because nobody wants to. I don't want nails driven through my hands. I don't want spears going through my side. I don't want to hang half naked or naked in front of everybody suffering. Nobody wants to do that. I don't want to be beaten. Beaten and, you know, to a bloody pulp, then crucified. Nobody wants that. I don't want to be denied three times by my best friend. I don't want to be betrayed by. Those were hurtful things. But the wrath of God being upon him and crying out, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? That's the pain of the cross. I believe that all that sin he took upon himself. [01:08:44] Speaker C: And it's not categorized. It's not, you know, a white lie is just as Bad as anything because God hates sin and we just don't. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Know how much he all sin upon. [01:08:56] Speaker C: Yeah, that's our problem. Yeah, we know. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Well also it's. I don't know that this even matters, but to have the entire wrath death of all sin of all time poured into a six hour period, that's got to be some pretty intense six hours. I mean it's not that spreading it out over 12 would make a difference or spread it out of her lifetime would make a difference. [01:09:25] Speaker B: But. But it's there. Yeah. And the relationship he had with the Father for all of eternity and to be gone. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Yep. [01:09:32] Speaker B: And so yeah, I think that's the struggle in the garden. I really do. [01:09:36] Speaker C: And I think we just don't get about how much God hates all sin. We just don't, you know, we know the little ones, I mean the big ones, but God hates it all and we just don't realize how much it. [01:09:48] Speaker B: Is sin is sin. And once you go back, put him. [01:09:50] Speaker C: On the cross to Adam, he did not do these awful things. He just obeyed the word of God. Well, that is bad. I'm not saying that. [01:10:01] Speaker B: I mean it wasn't immoral. No. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah, you could say it. But he, he. So he ate a fruit big. [01:10:07] Speaker B: He didn't murder nobody, but he disobey. [01:10:09] Speaker C: That's kind of. I mean we categorize it. But God hates it all. That's the. But we don't realize that God don't. Sometimes we think God don't hate my sin as much as he hates other people. Because, you know, they, they don't act like me. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Well, they have more of it. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Well, I mean at the end of. [01:10:25] Speaker C: The day, I think we've. [01:10:26] Speaker A: I was laying in bed the other night. [01:10:28] Speaker C: That's what I was trying, that's the point I was trying to make with that. [01:10:30] Speaker A: Him. [01:10:30] Speaker C: He just ate the fruit, tried to help you out. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I was thinking about this the other day and I almost thought I had a really, you know, profound, simple way to say this. And then I thought about some more. I was like, no, that's oversimplified. It's not quite that. But when you think about pride, and I mean ultimately at the end of the day with pride, it's almost always, maybe always just deciding that you're more important than God or you know, more than God or what you want is more important. [01:10:58] Speaker B: My way is better, right? [01:10:59] Speaker A: My way is better. Or, or even if my way is not better, it's still more. I like it better. [01:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:11:06] Speaker A: I may know it's wrong. But I may not even know what's wrong. It's just either I know better than God or what I know and won't takes precedent or takes priority over what God wants. Now you talk about a foolish thing to think that you know more or are more important than him. [01:11:26] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's. [01:11:27] Speaker A: That's kind of it with. And that is the heart of all sin is just saying, yeah, he's, you know, almighty God and everything. But in this case, what I want. [01:11:38] Speaker B: I know a little bit more important. [01:11:39] Speaker A: Or I know a little more than he does. We want. [01:11:42] Speaker C: We definitely want to know a little bit more than he does, you know? [01:11:45] Speaker A: Yeah. We don't care or we don't care. [01:11:48] Speaker C: That's a big one right there. [01:11:49] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's. [01:11:50] Speaker C: That I want to turn. I mean, I'm fine where I'm at. Yeah. I'm doing pretty good right now. You are? [01:11:57] Speaker A: Yep. [01:11:58] Speaker C: Nope. [01:11:58] Speaker B: And that's. That's the dangerous part is pride comes in and, you know, all this can be tied back to. It's kind of funny to me, it keeps coming back that even that balance of life, work, life, balance, the how I manage it, that pride comes back to, it's about me. I want to make sure and versus. Okay. Lord, you've given me this business. I want it to be used for your glory. And if I'm doing that, does that mean I'm working 90 hours a week? Is that to your glory? [01:12:28] Speaker A: Right. [01:12:30] Speaker B: That's tough. That's hard to say. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:33] Speaker B: So again, I think it goes back to can't. Can't undersell the relationship. And hearing from the Lord, that's the. [01:12:40] Speaker C: I think a lot of people don't get it because they don't think they're sinners. If you don't think you're a sinner, it's hard to. To ask for or. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Or that this is one of those things that God cares about. [01:12:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:53] Speaker B: But every area counts. [01:12:56] Speaker C: Yep. [01:12:56] Speaker A: Yep. [01:12:57] Speaker C: So are you going to recap my recapping? [01:13:00] Speaker B: I thought we've recapped. [01:13:01] Speaker A: Okay. [01:13:01] Speaker C: Recap it. Oh, okay. [01:13:06] Speaker B: No, I. I think it goes back to, you know, again, always seeking the Lord with all your heart, mind, body and soul and letting that govern how you love, how you dad, how you husband, how you wife, how you work, how you. I mean, it does go back to, just as Jesus was willing to say, not my will, but yours be done. That's. You get to the place in your life to where you're saying that that's the key because the Overworking the other things we've talked about today. It's basically the decision of, is it my will or God's will? [01:13:41] Speaker C: Wheel. That's a good recap. Yeah. [01:13:44] Speaker B: Well, thank you, man. You've been very complimentary. [01:13:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:48] Speaker A: What's wrong with you? [01:13:49] Speaker B: You had that extra day off. You had Tuesday off. [01:13:52] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I wreck cr. No, I. My truck's still not ready. [01:13:59] Speaker B: That's all right. [01:14:00] Speaker C: But I told. I told him I got. I got a good ride. Y' all just take your t. I got. [01:14:04] Speaker B: I got a truck. I got access to a truck, so I'm good. [01:14:07] Speaker C: No, it's. It could have been ready yesterday, but they got behind because it was. [01:14:12] Speaker B: Did you get an ebay part again? [01:14:14] Speaker C: No. No. All right. [01:14:15] Speaker B: Where'd you get this one on that? [01:14:16] Speaker C: I'm trying to. I paid full price, man. A dealer part. Oh, yeah. [01:14:22] Speaker A: I bet that felt good. [01:14:23] Speaker C: Run that check, like, three times as much. Four times. [01:14:25] Speaker B: I know it's three times as much. You couldn't get it, O'Reilly. [01:14:28] Speaker C: I got it. And plus, I'm having to put a fuel pump on twice. Yeah, well, see, I was. They led me to the eBay JC and. Because he's trying to save me some money. [01:14:39] Speaker B: Yeah. He's just trying to help. [01:14:40] Speaker C: Yeah, he helped me out. Well, it backfired on me. Yeah. And on him, too. And I'm okay with that. I mean, he was. He's a good guy. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Oh, he ain't trying to rip you off. [01:14:49] Speaker C: Oh, I know. [01:14:50] Speaker B: That guy's solid. [01:14:52] Speaker A: He's a good man, too. [01:14:54] Speaker C: Do what? [01:14:55] Speaker B: His boss is solid, too. [01:14:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Shout out. I do like Fuqua Tire, and I like Sears Tire, too. Shout out to both of those guys you need a car repair. If you quite. [01:15:04] Speaker C: Yeah. And they're honest. [01:15:05] Speaker A: Yep. [01:15:06] Speaker C: That's the main thing. [01:15:07] Speaker A: I've used them a lot, and they have always been. [01:15:10] Speaker B: They are solid guys. They're honest guys. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:14] Speaker B: Getting in's hard, but hey, yeah, it. [01:15:17] Speaker C: Might be a month. But I'm serious. [01:15:20] Speaker A: Well, even that, I'll say. I mean, there's been times that they have been swamped that if it was something. If they can sense that it's an emergency, do it. Yeah, they'll figure out a way. [01:15:29] Speaker B: Quality guys. [01:15:30] Speaker A: Really good guys. [01:15:30] Speaker C: Yeah. But now you're tired. You can get. Get. Go down there and get them our inspection any day. Far as their mechanic mechanical work is. [01:15:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:40] Speaker C: By. By appointment. [01:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:44] Speaker C: They just have to. Another location because there's a lot of people. [01:15:49] Speaker B: Or a second one. [01:15:50] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, bigger one. [01:15:52] Speaker A: Or a bigger one. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, Michael. [01:15:55] Speaker A: That we done. All right, bye. [01:15:58] Speaker B: Thank you, guys. [01:15:59] Speaker A: Thank you, man. [01:16:04] Speaker C: Of course, you live in a nice area, you know, where everybody wants to be. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Oh, is that right? [01:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:10] Speaker C: We're not fortunate. We grew up in the town of Duncan. Dollar General. Yeah. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Got a gas station right in the Duncan Desert. [01:16:18] Speaker A: The Duncan Desert. [01:16:19] Speaker B: Four way stop sign. [01:16:20] Speaker C: Oh, four way now. [01:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:22] Speaker C: Soon street light will be there. [01:16:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm. I'm hoping one day, man. I tell you, we're getting there, man. Where did it go? [01:16:31] Speaker A: Now that I say that, you gonna. [01:16:33] Speaker C: Find it in there. [01:16:35] Speaker A: I just turned to it. [01:16:36] Speaker C: Wow. [01:16:38] Speaker A: This wasn't exactly. This ain't exactly a miracle. I had it earmarked, okay? [01:16:43] Speaker B: I was like, wow. [01:16:45] Speaker C: I said, he's showed that six times already. [01:16:48] Speaker B: Which one, Kentucky or George? [01:16:50] Speaker C: No, I was just playing with you. He said, I think I've shared this before. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Shared it with y'. All. [01:16:57] Speaker C: I was just playing with him.