Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: And so worship is so much more than just, okay, something I do. Your life is a worship service when you're giving over all your heart, mind, body, and strength, expressing the praise to a father who has revealed himself through his son, man. That's worship. And so worship can be practicing the presence of God. Doesn't have to be in a church or at home in your quiet time.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's important that we just stay within our element and just let God do the work.
[00:00:35] Speaker C: I'm glad Kenny and Brandon are back. You know, I blew all of my topics last week. Me and Ben had, you know, just me and him, too. So. Yeah, I ran through everything I had to say. I'm looking forward to that.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: My back was tired, man.
[00:00:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm looking forward to coming out, too.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. It was weird in here. It was awful quiet.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: It really was.
[00:00:54] Speaker C: And then, you know, probably the shortest episode we've done in two years, and I still ain't got it out, so.
Excuses.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:02] Speaker C: I mean, it's not short. It's 55 minutes.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: Kenny @ the fair, I'm obviously.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: Brandon, get here.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: The speed demons.
[00:01:09] Speaker C: So I had.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: I had, you know, Ken in the speed demons. That's fair.
[00:01:14] Speaker D: Did y' all go over the.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: The.
[00:01:16] Speaker D: The fruit thing?
[00:01:17] Speaker C: We did not. We saved that for you. Well, I touched on it because there was a. I made a point about it, but we didn't dive deep into it. Well, welcome to the other 167. And welcome back to Kenny and Brandon. Missed y' all last week.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: Good having you.
[00:01:32] Speaker C: I. I don't have anything talk about. I. I talked out last week, so it's just me and Ben last week. So, yeah, I'm gonna let y' all handle it today. I'm just gonna sit back and. And listen and edit.
[00:01:42] Speaker A: The woman on the whale would have listened. I got a whale.
[00:01:45] Speaker C: Yeah. One of the thing. The. Me and Brandon were talking about this, and we talked to you about it Sunday after church. The woman at the will. One thing I had never called. I don't know if it's in any of the commentaries or anything like that, but you pointed out that it never says that she was divorced five times. And that was just one of those things that was like, wow, how did I never notice that? And in fairness, she may have been divorced five times. You don't know.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Otherwise, she could have been.
[00:02:07] Speaker C: But that was a one of those things that I was just like, wow, there's a lot of things that we maybe. And I think that to me, it was A it was an example of. That's one out of 66 books in the Bible. I bet there's a bunch of things that I have assumed.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: Well, it's assumed there's things you might have been taught whether as a child in Sunday school or maybe you've heard sermons. I mean I've heard sermons about this woman was, you know, promiscuous and who knows she may, she may could have been. At the same time though at that time it wasn't that women had, the women didn't have the authority to divorce. So there were five men who divorced her. Now was it because she was or it could have been three divorces and two widows.
We don't know that. And so I just wanted to point that out that oftentimes we, we, we just assume. I know oftentimes Mary Magdalene gets a bad rap. Now Grant, again she has some things but everybody paints her as being something she may not have been because it doesn't necessarily say that. So I think it's just one. Just we just have to be careful. Now we know for her to be going to the well in the middle of the day when all the other women went it at in the morning, I mean and I can imagine. And again I didn't say this Sunday and I don't mean it by anything I can imagine when you group of women, they were probably talking, they were probably talking about her.
No offense but yeah, well.
[00:03:29] Speaker C: And there was a. Another point that you brought up in your sermon was the order and that, that Jesus had this conversation. He does show a lot of patience because she comes back and she's got something to say about everything he says. Yeah, but you said that she, he waited to sort out the theology until after she came to him.
It was that him, him being the Messiah was the first thing he wanted her to know. We'll sor theological question.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Let's get you to where you know you need a savior. I am he. The one you're talking to is he.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: And I feel like that's the thing maybe that can.
I don't know if I'll say it rubs people the wrong way. It might rub just me the wrong way, but that's something I think that can. We can get a little backwards sometimes in church and we can think it's just an easy trap to slip into that.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:04:14] Speaker C: Get your theology right and then you can finally get to know the say.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: I got to win this argument. Right?
[00:04:19] Speaker C: Right.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: Right now.
[00:04:20] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: Hey look, I'm not interested in winning the Point. I mean, we're interested in you coming to know who the savior is. Yeah.
[00:04:26] Speaker C: Because that's something I've experienced with it from, you know, as I've. It's funny, I can look back at conversations me and you had a long time ago or things that I struggled with as a kid or things that, you know, different times my life. Things that people showed a lot of patience. Maybe when I didn't even appreciate that they were showing. I didn't realize I was.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't even know he's showing me.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: And I look back at it now and I can see, you know, yeah, man, dad could have been a lot meaner than he was in that situation. Or mom could have been a lot. She was showing a lot more grace than I realized there. They were very patient.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Right.
[00:04:56] Speaker C: And eventually some of these things that maybe they didn't even bring up that I needed to do differently. Jesus handled in. In his time. And sometimes we can.
It can be real easy to do the opposite and to come really, really hard on all the rules. And right then enough of that starts to blind the person from the relationship itself.
[00:05:19] Speaker D: That's it.
[00:05:20] Speaker C: And so just say it was a good. A good point to make and one that, you know, I know we talk about it a lot on the show and it's a recurring theme of the show, hopefully, and I think for good reason. But that gotta be real, real careful not to let your legalism get in the way of the relationship.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: That's it. And I think it's one of being patient with people because, I mean, he was with this lady and we should be too. I mean, because, look, we didn't start out where we are now. It was a process just like when Jesus says, and from his innermost being will spring forth wells of eternal life. That's a process too.
And that's growing and maturing and just, you know, I think that's why we always need to be. Be patient with one another. Because, look, they're. They're in this process too. Although sometimes people can wear that patience mighty, mighty thin.
[00:06:09] Speaker C: For sure. Yeah.
One big. I wrote this down as like a big question. I don't think it's something that I can. I don't know if I'll ever answer it necessarily, but it's something that I've been pondering just a little bit. You talked. One of your bullets someday was the. The humility of Christ and the human. The humanity of Christ. Every time you bring up or anytime I think about Christ being humble.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:31] Speaker C: That is I don't know. Just a big thing for me to ponder because I don't understand how Christ could be humble. He is humble. But I'm sitting there thinking, how can. With all that power, how can you be humble? It just, it, it. And I just wrote down, that's a big question. And I don't know what the answer is, but I think it's an important one to feed to. To. To ponder, maybe, is if we're to be humble.
There's never a good excuse for thinking you're too big to be humble. Because he wasn't too big to be humble. I don't understand how he came back. You know, I don't understand with all the. Literally the almighty of the universe, who he was.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:07] Speaker C: How can you still be humble?
[00:07:09] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I think that goes back to Philippians 2 when it says, had this attitude in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although existed in the form of God, didn't count that as something to be equal with God, but instead he limited himself. He basically said, I'm going to go to earth and take on the form of a servant. So you have the marks of humility there.
I think it's one of. When you understand what your mission is, when you understand what your purpose is, it kind of helps you to maintain that humility.
Knowing that, hey, I'm not the one in charge. We fool ourselves into thinking that we call the shots. Where Jesus think about when the centurion came to him, he said, I'm also a man under authority. Jesus, I always read that wrong for the longest time, thinking, oh, I have authority. No, he said, I'm under authority, too. But then I tell this man to go and that man to go. So he's under authority. But he also had authority. But he knows he answers to a higher source. And I think that's one of the things that keeps you humble as well. I think one of the things, too, is always to remind yourself that no matter how successful you get. And this is one of the things I talked to our staff this morning about. Even if you're having success in ministry, don't let it go to your head.
Don't somehow think that I did it. Because here's the thing. All good gifts come from above. And so it is him that did it or his work, God's work, that did it. So don't, don't ever let that. And that's a. I think everybody has to guard against that, pastors especially, because people. Oh, man, that sermon. And I'm like, Look, God's the one that does it. He's the one that gave us the Word. I mean, it's his spirit that helps us to understand it. So it's nothing I do.
It's here. And so we just have to remind yourself of that over and over again. Because if not, pride begins to creep in. And pride is kind of that gateway, gateway drug, gateway sin, if you will, that's going to lead to a whole lot of other stuff. So I think for Christ, I'm sure he had to keep that in check from time to time. I don't know. But I'm sure he was tempted in every way, yet without sin. So the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life, I mean, that's one of the temptations he did, is cast yourself down and the angels will catch you and everybody's going to worship you. Oh, that seems mighty Nights.
[00:09:40] Speaker C: That's a deep one to think about there, though.
[00:09:41] Speaker D: Because if.
[00:09:42] Speaker C: Maybe I'm not paraphrasing what you just said correctly, but do you think he had to fight pride? We have to fight pride. Well, I mean, that's something that naturally we're going to become pride. And I sit there and think, well, Jesus wouldn't have had to fight pride. He was naturally humble and therefore would not have to even have the thought of pride would be sinful. But you said he was tempted in every way without sinning. So it's. I don't know that that's a. I'd.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Say that would be pride. He was tempted with pride.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sure he was tempted with it.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah. But I do want to go back to what you were talking about, that, you know, people think they're successful because of the work they did. Yeah. And I. We got a whole book, Hosea, that talks about the Gomer's wife. She thought, you know, she earned all her income herself. But in Hosea, and I don't know which verse it is right off the top of my head, but God says, even though you think you earned it.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: I'm the one that gave it to you. We have to. And that does keep. That kind of keeps me a little bit humble, that everything I have, maybe I've earned it in my sense, but it's God.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: And there is a sense that you went out, you went out and worked and you're working. I mean, there is a sense of that at the same time.
And it's kind of like, if you will. I hate to. I don't know if I want to Go this far or not, but kind of like your salvation. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. But it's him who began a good work in you that is faithful to complete it in Christ Jesus. So there's a two part. Yeah, you gotta go out and work, but he gives you the gifts. He gave you the ability to get out of bed this morning whether it was with a heating pad or not.
[00:11:20] Speaker C: He gave you the heating pad.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: That's what we call him to be as a callback.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: But Hosea, Hosea's acts up for him. The verse quoting 2 or 3, chapter 2 or 3. That whole book backs up that verse.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: That's it.
So, so it is always one of reminding yourself that hey, Lord, to you be the glory. Because again you gave me the ability to be able to do this and if you hadn't, I wouldn't be able to do that.
[00:11:49] Speaker D: I'll say this, this was, it wasn't last week's, but it was John 2 with the water and the one.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:11:55] Speaker D: And during your lessons you showed, you talked about. And it just, it hit me. Govern not by the world, but by the word of God. And that's, that's pretty daggone strong. We live in this world that we try to do daily things and all that other stuff, but the Word is what matters and nothing else but that. But that Word. Live through the Word.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: And that goes to that principle we've been talking about. When you're governed by the Word and not the world, then you're going to see in the Word that God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. And it's going to remind you that no, the humility is I need to stay humble because as soon as I begin to let pride creep in, man, you just made yourself an enemy. Oppose, it says God opposes the proud.
[00:12:42] Speaker D: And you attempt it every day of all different kinds each day. But as long as you're in the Word, I mean, Lord have mercy. What kind of shield do you need? Any other better shield than that is the Word.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: That's the Word. That's right.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Well what Jesus said, I mean this is how important the word of God is. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my Word shall last forever.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: That's exactly right.
So yeah, I think it is from being in God's Word that you see things like how important humility is and you see that when Christ was tempted. Yeah, I'm sure there were other places he was tempted.
I mean, I don't mean to be ugly, but you feed 5,000. And they're ready to make you a king that might go to somebody's head. Even Jesus. Yeah, his flesh.
[00:13:29] Speaker C: Yeah. The foot. Right.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: And at the same time, he resistes that or resist that. And you know that. I'm sure it's a temptation that would have been easy to take. And then when the Garden of Gethsemane, you know, I don't know that was much pride, as much it was, hey, any other way to do this? I'm sure the enemy came back that night and said to be sure you don't want to do this.
[00:13:52] Speaker D: If I'm not mistaken, after he fed the 5,000 people and the disciples, they went down to the boat and got on the boat. He stayed away because he went to go pray. Is that correct? So even right there, you got all those people and he ran. First thing he did was go straight and pray.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Now, if you go to John six's account. Yeah, if you go to John six's account, John. John was.
John six kind of ends a little bit.
I mean, Jesus starts teaching some hard, hard lessons because he had to feed him 5,000, feeding the 4,000. But in John 6, when he feeds the 5,000, Jesus begins to say, okay, you want the bread?
You just want something for nothing.
I'm the living bread that's come from heaven, and unless you eat of my flesh and partake of me, then you won't be saved. And people are like, I don't get this.
And it says there that many left him. He turns to his disciples and says, y' all gonna leave too?
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Well, let me ask. Ask you this, because we talked about Jesus. Temptation doesn't. Hebrews say. And I. I just caught it in the back of my mind that he was tempted in every way known to me.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Hebrews 4:15. Yeah, he was tempted like us, in every way, yet without sin. That's why.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: So he was. It wasn't just.
He was probably tempted more so than we are.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: I would think so, yeah, by far. I mean, you fast for 40 days and 40 nights, and then the enemy comes and says, turn these stones to bread. That's pretty good temptation, knowing you could do it.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: But the Bible records where he was tempted there three times. Yeah, but it was all through his ministry.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: But. But it also says in. Like in Matthew 3, I think, where that account is, it also says the enemy left him for a time, meaning he's coming back and it just left him at that time.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: And I can imagine.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: And he also says. I'm just. I didn't mean to interrupt You. But he also tells Peter, get thee behind me, Satan. That wasn't just cause Peter, you're a knucklehead. But that was. That was okay. That was a. That was.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: But we think of it, God's only was tempted three times.
[00:15:56] Speaker C: Right.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: I mean that's the main ones.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: And I get. I mean even he would.
It was hard for him to keep his patience with his disciples because they weren't doing anything he was saying it did. So that was a thorn in his flesh.
[00:16:10] Speaker C: His disciples, well, I mean at that.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Time they saw all these miracles and they still wouldn't believe.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: Well, they saw somebody else doing it. And you want us to call down fire from heaven.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: You know, or are they on our side? You know, it's. And I'm sure Peter open mouth and insert foot time and time again. But again that shows his patience.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: I think the disciples had to work through a lot of legalism too.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: Well, they were Jews.
[00:16:36] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: And they were raised in Judaism.
And I'm sure they had to work through. Wait a second. The Messiah is supposed to come and do X. And I think that's one of the reasons Judas. I'm sure Judas was thinking that he's going to overthrow Rome.
In a way I'd make the argument. I don't know that I would. Would argue it too much. But in a way, I think Judas was kind of trying to speed things up. I think he was actually make things happen out there.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: I think he was. And when he saw it didn't happen, he was sad.
Oh man, I made a mistake.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Yep. That's why he gave the money back.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: Why didn't repent?
Well, obviously it was prophesied, but that why he didn't repent. He could have. And I really believe when Jesus was dipping the bread and in the. In the cup with Judas, that Jesus said that very patiently and kindly and lovingly. That almost when he says.
I think he's.
It doesn't say that directly, but I think he was saying, you really don't.
[00:17:40] Speaker D: Have to do that.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Or go and what you would go.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: He was with him up to the end.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:17:46] Speaker D: Okay. All right. I was trying to.
[00:17:47] Speaker C: Am I understanding what you're saying right here? That maybe when Judas betrayed Jesus, it didn't say it. He was. He was thinking that Jesus would.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: They didn't.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: He didn't necessarily think that they would be able to successfully kill him. That Jesus was going to show his power then probably. And then when he didn't, Judas is.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: Thinking that's exactly what he was Kind of doing. Again, nothing says that, but there's a.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: Part of me, once they try to capture him, he'll show his true power and then we'll speed this thing up.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: Speed this thing up. Man, I'm tired of watching Rome do what they do if he's the Messiah, because again, looking to deliver.
You know, that's why, again, I talked about. Because that's one thing I found fascinating when I was studying John 4, was why did he all of a sudden, with her, I'm the Messiah? I mean, he basically says that the one you're talking to is he. Well, wait a second. In Israel, he never comes out and just says, I'm him.
In fact, he goes kind of out of the way or maybe does a miracle with nobody knowing it and tells everybody, keep it on the low.
Well, if you try to make it known, man, make it known. But there was a reason, because Israel wanted a deliverer.
And here's this woman, she doesn't come with that.
[00:19:00] Speaker C: And is there enough in the prophecies in the Old Testament, is there enough scriptural guidance there that they should have known? What? Because they all think they're going to get a military, conquering king is the Messiah. Right. And they get Jesus instead. Is there enough? And I'm thinking of, you know, passages in there where it talks about Jesus being sacrificed and his side being pierced and all these different things.
[00:19:25] Speaker A: They might overlook Isaiah 53.
[00:19:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: And they may argue, well, that's technically not necessarily about the Messiah. That's another prophet or somebody else.
[00:19:34] Speaker C: We know the story now, so it's easy for us to look back and say, well, how did you not know he was the Messiah? Well, did they have enough that they should have known?
[00:19:44] Speaker B: I think they have enough.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: I think they did at the same.
[00:19:47] Speaker C: Time, the miracles alone.
[00:19:48] Speaker A: But they also had enough to. I could see where they were thinking when you hear the word king, when you hear the line of David, I could see where they would think, oh, this is going to be. This is going to be. To reestablish David's kingdom.
David's kingdom was probably one of the most powerful at the time.
All right, here we go. It's going to be a Jewish reign.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: I think that's the whole. What the thinking, popular thinking was that the Messiah would come deliver them.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: Yeah, Well, I mean, you see Peter and John, even not, not just Judas, Peter and James and John, they were asking, or James and John and ask, can we sit at right hand? And when your kingdom comes into being, and I'm sure they Were still thinking along those lines. I don't know that they were thinking heavenly. I don't know.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: I think the whole country was thinking on those lines.
[00:20:37] Speaker C: Well, in maybe the most blunt way that I can say. Well, it was he almost too humble for them. Like they're expecting this big, mighty powerful king and then Jesus and we look at it and say, isn't it great how humble Jesus was?
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Well, I'm sure they weren't expecting a suffering servant, right?
I think they were looking a conquering king, which he will be on the second time. But I don't, I don't think they were looking a suffering servant on the first go round. No, I don't think anybody was.
[00:21:03] Speaker C: I know that the stereotypes are on a stereotype is the right way of saying it, but the, or perception. Which, which is it? Whatever.
The Old Testament. Yeah, the, the Old Testament, God's all, you know, mean and wrath and powerful. And then in the New Testament it's loving. And that's not the truth when you read it. That's just that, you know, there's a lot of God's love and patience in the Old Testament.
But they didn't have the teachings of Christ that we have now to go off of prior to him getting there to know his. I feel like Jesus showed the, he showed the power of God, but he also demonstrated the love of God that. Did they not know how loving God was?
Should they have known how loving God was before Jesus? Or was Jesus what revealed his love?
[00:21:51] Speaker A: I mean through, through the Word? Yes, they would have known. But again, let's, let's be fair to them. Not everybody had a copy of Scriptures because one of many.
So they had to rely on teachings and everything else. But they still should know just by looking at nature itself. But I think, I think the one thing that I would point out is they were under the old covenant, we're under the new covenant. And Christ is the mediator of this new covenant. And because he's. He has started and established this new covenant, things have changed. It's no longer about external, trying to follow rituals and rules. Now the Spirit of God lives in us. Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8 is going to quote Jeremiah 31 and talk about what this new covenant looks like. And that's the whole thing is the whole relationship changed. It's not that God changed, it's how we can relate to him.
The Jews had rules, regulations, priests, where we have a great high priest. And now the covenant, the Spirit, the law is written on our heart. He now lives inside of us. We have hearts of stone that have been replaced with hearts of flesh. I mean, it has become a brand new dynamic, brand new situation with the new covenant.
[00:23:07] Speaker C: So, and that's maybe what I'm again back to what was in John 4. Sometimes it's really easy to miss the obvious things that aren't said. But it's so easy. We know the story, we know the way it all ends in the Gospels. 95% of the Gospels were written before any of, before we knew this stuff. He was teaching it as he was going along with it. But they didn't know the end story. They didn't. Even though he said several times he predicted his death.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: Yeah, right.
[00:23:36] Speaker C: But they didn't know what that meant. They thought he was talking about the literal temple and they didn't know about the pouring out of the Holy Spirit. He does talk about it in John to the disciples and talks about, but they didn't know what that was.
There are so many things that we now know that they didn't. And it's really easy to forget that part when you're reading through the Gospels and you think, look at these idiots. How do they not know this? How do they not know if we were there, we wouldn't know any more than they did.
[00:23:59] Speaker D: Well, especially with too, with the Pharisees and the old covenant push, you know, that's what you believed in. And then you got these people that you've been looking up to in the old Covenant and you got, you know, Jesus coming around saying, hey, this is, you know, there's got to be some. I would think there'd be a lot of pushback until you actually.
Faith comes in and to be enlightened.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:21] Speaker D: By the Lord and Jesus being there. And not just with the healings, but the faith.
[00:24:26] Speaker C: Well, that's back to a point that you made a second ago too about, you know, humility, especially in ministry.
Is that okay, so then what's the difference in the people who didn't believe in him and the ones who, who did it?
Everybody saw the same miracles.
[00:24:44] Speaker D: Right.
[00:24:44] Speaker C: Some believed in him and some didn't. Seeing the same miracles. At the end of the day, it's still the Holy Spirit and God himself that reveals that to you. And it's not necessarily. Just because we both see the same thing doesn't mean we're both going to walk away for the same experience. The difference between that is really faith and even that's from God.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think, I think it's one of got two things going here. One is that's what you see in Nicodemus, what you just pointed out. That's why Nicodemus wrestled with it so much, because he had been taught, he was the teacher of Israel. And so he has been teaching this. And now all of a sudden, everything you believed, everything you were taught, everything that. And it's not that it was wrong because the Old Testament, there's nothing wrong about it, it just was weak in the fact that it could never provide eternal salvation.
Now Jesus has come to do that, but man, what an eye opener for everybody. And then you stop and think, for the Jews, this, Christianity, this was a threat to them. I mean, that's why they're killing Stephen in Acts 8 is because. Wait a minute, this everything.
Read what Stephen's testimony is. It is basically God's got a brand new way of doing things, folks. It's a brand new covenant because his son Jesus has come. And so for all those Jews who for their whole life and for thousands and thousands of years have been doing this, you know, this is a, this is a threat to them because this is, this is.
I mean, is it a lie? Is it truth for them? They had to say, oh, this isn't true. This is.
[00:26:21] Speaker C: It was blasphemy to them.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: Sure. I mean, because this is not. And like I said, their, their job was to protect Israel, to be the separated ones, to help them follow the rules and the laws and the Judaism. And now here comes this. And it's totally opposite everything they ever had.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: The last thing they want to do is go back into captivity again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: One thing you brought up Sunday too. The contrast between John 3 and John 4. And as I'm sitting there Sunday thinking through the chronology of the book of John, and I don't know, John's such a different Gospel than the Synoptic gospels.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: So maybe that's that. Without me getting into the commentary and really digging into it. I don't, I don't know. I'm just going to cheat and ask you. But in. If you think about the chronology, John one is, Is really just him painting the prologue. There you go, the prologue.
Two is. Turns water into wine. That's a very small group of people that see that.
By John 3, Nicodemus is coming in here and saying, we know that you're from God, but, you know, explain this to me.
[00:27:27] Speaker A: Right?
[00:27:28] Speaker C: And then in John 4, he tells the Samaritan, I'm the Messiah. Now if you read that and compare it to Luke or Mark or Matthew, it's a lot of Miracles and a lot of healings and a lot of teachings and a lot of sermons. And then eventually he reveals himself to Jerusalem. At the end really is when he finally reveals who he is. So I guess all that to say based on him turning water into wine in front of a very small group of people in Cana. Why didn't Nicodemus know who he was?
[00:27:56] Speaker A: Well, and that's the thing now, and you have to keep in mind I'm not preaching verse by verse through the book of John.
John 2, the end of John 2, Jesus cleanses the temple.
You also have some things that happen in John 1 and John 2 where some leaders go and begin to question John the Baptist. And he's baptizing and they're asking him questions.
He may have heard John saying, behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. That's John 1:29.
But when you look at John 2 and he goes and he cleanses out the temple, I am sure Jesus name is on Nicodemus radar just because of that. Then not only that, in John 2 he makes the statement of destroy this temple and I'll rebuild it in three days. And they're like, it took 46 years to build this temple. You can't believe that. They didn't know he was talking about his body.
So I am sure somewhere along the line Nicodemus had that.
Who is this guy? And that's one of the reasons I think he went at night.
Because if he goes in front of a crowd in the middle of the daytime, that changes the whole dynamic. It's now me versus him. You see that when all the Pharisees come and ask questions, they're afraid because of what the crowd may do or they may do this. Now this is one on one and I'm not even sure what Nicodemus. We don't know what Nicodemus was going to ask him.
[00:29:19] Speaker C: That's right, you didn't get a chance.
[00:29:20] Speaker A: Jesus just goes right to the chase and says unless a man is born again, he won't see the kingdom of heaven. Yeah, Nicodemus was still paying him compliments. We know you're from God, Rabbi. Nobody be able to do these things. Bam. Unless a man be born again. I mean, Jesus isn't necessarily up for debate here on this thing. So I think it's one of whatever Nicodemus had in mind, Jesus kind of cut that off at the knees and said, let's get down to the brass tax.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: So what you're saying, I mean one point that hasn't always been clear to me because the third commentary is used.
Second John cleansing the temple like it was the last week. So.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: Do you think there was two cleansings?
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Two cleansing.
[00:30:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:30:01] Speaker C: Yeah. I think that was maybe in the comments.
There are two.
[00:30:06] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:30:07] Speaker B: This is not necessarily corrupt.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: No, John. John doesn't care one whip.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: I mean it's not.
[00:30:15] Speaker A: Because look, think about it this way. Synoptic means seeing a light. And so Matthew, Mark and Luke are all going to be kind of some of the same stories you're going to have some of the same miracles you're going to have. And they're kind of in order, chronological.
[00:30:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: For the most part John. John is not caring about just telling you the story of he didn't went here and then he went. John is painting you a pict.
Remember what the prologue is? We have seen his glory, we have beheld his glory. He has disclosed God to us. John 20:31. I write these things that you might believe and by believing receive eternal life in his name. So John has a purpose. John's put together a whole.
He's writing a story for you versus I think the other ones was just telling this is what Jesus did. Luke kind of does that and he tells Theophilus, who he dedicates the book to is. I've talked to many women.
[00:31:06] Speaker B: They're more in order.
[00:31:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: But yeah, the three year order. This could have been his second year in ministry.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: Possible.
[00:31:17] Speaker C: No.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: So yeah, I would think a lot of people know him by now if this happened before John 3.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: But obviously the Samaritan doesn't or the Samaritan woman, she don't know who he is from Adam's house.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: Yeah, but the Jews didn't have anything to do with him.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm sure news would drop.
[00:31:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
One of the things that, you know, not to try to answer my own question of what how was Christ so humble? But one of the things that I've been pondering with that is that the closer we get to God, I think the more humble we do become because we see his greatness. And you start to compare yourself. I stopped comparing myself to you knuckleheads and start comparison to him. And I start to realize what a mess I really am.
And when you think about no one's ever had a closer relationship to the Father than Jesus did. So he certainly knew the. And now that gets a little tricky with the Trinity stuff. I get a little lost in that just a little bit. And it's like he was he who was and is And I get a little lost on that sometimes. But at the same time, he knew the grandest of the grandest plan. He knew the entire picture better than any of us ever.
And I think one of the points of humility is submitting to higher power is very cliche. But submitting to a power bigger than you and understanding that his plans are more important than mine, he knows better than I know. And at the end of the day, to me, that's a lot of where the humility comes from is remembering that no matter what I think I know, I will never know anything, even on a microscopic level compared to his overall scheme of things.
And, and other than some obvious truths and scriptural truth, there are things. I was watching a video Mama sent me this morning from somebody that she's talking about doing something totally the opposite of what she thought she should do. It made absolutely no sense, but that's where she felt like God was taking her.
Sometimes that is the case in our, our lives. There are things that this is not the way I would do it, you know, or I don't know why he's telling me to do this or why he told that person to do everything. We think we, we know may be completely wrong in submitting to him and being willing to go, like I said last week or week before, write that, sign your name to that paper and then let him fill it in later.
And yeah, and sometimes he goes completely against every fiber of reason you have in your body because every fiber of reason you have in your body is wrong. Sometimes, sometimes, not always. I'm not saying it's always been the case.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: I think one attraction that people fall into is okay. It's so outlandish. This must be God telling me to do it right.
[00:33:52] Speaker C: That can be dangerous too. 100%.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:54] Speaker C: Yeah. But I think that sometimes it's. To me, I'm thinking maybe in my day to day life, there's times that I feel like I need to be doing something different, but I'll spend, you know, maybe my Bible time ends up turning into an hour and a half instead of 30 minutes in the morning. I meant for it to be 30 minutes and turns into an hour and a half. That's totally fine. If that puts me a little bit behind on something else I need to get done or whatever for the day. Is that something I should feel, you know, guilty about now? I'm gonna say probably not now. Does that mean I don't need to do my responsibilities or, you know, delay picking the kids up from school because I'M doing it. Probably not, but it's. Sometimes my day gets a little derailed because of him.
And whenever that happens, it's.
That's usually reassuring that we're probably doing the right things.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I think that's the thing too. And I think that's one of the things the Lord's been showing me.
I don't see Jesus walking around with a Palm Pilot and saying, I gotta be at Galilee at 3 o'.
[00:34:51] Speaker D: Clock.
[00:34:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: And I gotta be here at 5 o'.
[00:34:53] Speaker C: Clock.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: I don't think. I just don't see that.
And I don't think he was governed by time the way we are.
In fact, I dare say, yeah, I'd be willing to. I can give you a perfect example of that.
Word came to him that his friend Lazarus was sick. I don't see him jumping on the next train or the plane getting back to Bethany. No. It says he hung around for a couple more days. And because he was on God's timetable, not man's, at the same time, we're men. And so, yeah, we're going to be on a timetable. But I think we try. And then maybe I'm not just sitting. Everybody I know, some of us and myself included, we try to put as much stuff in our calendar as we can because God get everything done.
And I'm not sure that's exactly what it wants. At the same time, you got a life, you got a business, you got to get that done too. So.
[00:35:46] Speaker C: Well. And even you guys are going to the mountains next week, I think.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Right.
[00:35:50] Speaker C: For that. And I had planned. I've just been blocked off my calendar since you first told us about it. I was planning on going up there and I was thinking about it, you know, last week or so, and I thought, you know, should I go maybe.
Is the trip gonna be okay if I don't go? Yes. You don't necessarily have to say yes to every single. Just because something is a, you know, involved with the church or involves something from the. Doesn't mean you have to say yes to everything.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:36:17] Speaker C: God needs you where he needs you, how he needs you when he needs you, all that kind of stuff. It doesn't necessarily have to be every single. Because if you're not careful with that, that's where you turn into legalism and you start feeling prideful about. Look at all the things.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Or you wear yourself out.
[00:36:32] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:33] Speaker C: And there's just sometimes the.
Maybe that's a practical example of what I was just saying about Sometimes it goes. I mean every fiber of me tells me that I should try to go on mission trips if I'm available to. Right.
Doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't need me here or he doesn't need me to rest or whatever. But what you think is the obvious answer isn't necessarily always that. The obvious answer is to follow him and where the spirit leads you. That's not always going to be saying yes to every single thing and trying to jam pack your day of full of as many things as you possibly can.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: And I think, and I'm Brandon, I'm gonna bring you in on this because I mean you, you're. You're wrestling with this. Brandon has got a. Starting a successful business. He's going all over. He's running here, running there.
At the same time he's got a young family. At the same time, he's, you know, wanting to serve the Lord. So I mean he's, he's in the middle of. This is. This is Brandon's life. You're lying too of. Okay. There's so many things pulling at me at the same time.
And I think the thing that I would ask is, you know, what is the drawing line of. And sometimes I believe it comes down between good, better and best. There's a lot of good things you and I could be doing. All right, so here's some good things I could be doing. I get asked to be.
To maybe serve on some boards with Christian organizations. Those are good things. I love the Christian organization, but right now I don't have time nor is it what I need to be doing. Good. Yeah, better would be okay. I'm gonna be here and taking care of a lot of stuff. But even in that. All right, so is my time better served, you know, running down H Vac men or spending time with God's word. Good, better, best. And I think, I think all of us are going to do it. And I think, you know, Brandon, I know you, you're in that process right now of wrestling with that. And so I think it's one of, you know, I think our listeners would. Would benefit man here in your. Your, your, your struggles and your. Where you're seeing it.
[00:38:37] Speaker D: Well, my. For sure the family life balance of work and being with the family and all that. And then plus two, finding time for the Lord and getting into the Word. I will say this, Ben, you said this Sunday that if you ever feel like you're distanced from the Lord or you have or you just feel like he's not Answering you and all this other stuff and you say, get in that word.
Getting into that word will get you closer to him. I mean, and learning, not just reading his Word daily. And the struggles I have is you get up early in the morning, take care of the family, go to work. I go to work. And then doing all this stuff. And then you need to spend time with your family at home.
And then, you know, sometimes you're too tired to open up the book and which, you know, you need to and want to. Not just sort of need, but actually I want to.
And then all of a sudden the day goes by and it's a struggle. I mean, it really is for me. And I like how you said the best, better, good, better beings. Yes, the best. I mean, the better would be just stay in the Word, he's in control and he'll lay it out for you.
[00:39:44] Speaker C: Right.
[00:39:44] Speaker D: You just going on the, the trips I've always worried about. Oh, man. Work and all this stuff. Just do it.
[00:39:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:50] Speaker D: Block off that week.
That's what. And the rest he'll take care of for you.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:55] Speaker D: And I'll be back when you get home.
[00:39:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: You know, and, and, and to your point, you know, the, the best would be to be there in the Word all the time. Yes. Well, he's not caught us to be monks.
[00:40:05] Speaker C: Right.
[00:40:06] Speaker A: And to lock ourselves up in a monastery. And so they're even that, that work, life, balance is so key.
[00:40:13] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: And, you know, knowing what, what God would have you to do and then acting upon it and then going from there.
[00:40:20] Speaker D: And, and we talked about it the, the other podcast too, not last week's, but the one before.
Just talking to him while you're working, you know, that's, that's good, too.
[00:40:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:40:32] Speaker D: During, during the day. It doesn't have to just be night.
[00:40:36] Speaker C: When I, and I think that when, when you're saying good, better, best to me, not to make it quite so cut and dry as this, but best to me is always going to be fellowship with him. Whether that's prayer, reading the Word, it's. It's just, you know, worshiping him. That doesn't mean that that's 24 7. Again, we're not called to be monks, but anything that I'm doing that takes away from that is probably going to be a little bit of an issue. Right. So if you're, if something is.
If I try to look at it that way and say, okay. I mean, there are times that going on a walk is a good time for me to worship. There are Times that just calling somebody and having a conversation with them is a way to serve. So it's maybe serving him. Sometimes that is worship and taking time to pray. And sometimes it's reading the word, sometimes that's discipleship. It means different things.
But doing something for him, to draw closer to him, to me, that's always going to be the best. Now, what that means, I let him try to. I try to let him dictate that, right? If I'm sitting down to read the Bible and phone rings of somebody I've been praying for might take the phone call, and that might be, you know, might be what I'm. I'm doing. The other times I've ignored phone calls for it, you know, but it's following that spirit and what I said Sunday.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: And you're right, Brandon, it is one of. If you ever feel distant from God, you ever feel like, man, he's just not hearing me. My prayers aren't even getting above the tile here.
And if you ever do feel like that, then what you do is you begin to worship in spirit and truth. Because the Lord is searching for worshipers who will worship him in spirit and truth. And so worship is so much more than just, okay, something I do.
It's so much more than it's tied to a particular location. That's what he was really getting at with that Samaritan woman is worship is not just what takes place at this mountain or in Jerusalem.
It is about a person. And so it's not about a place, it's about a person. And then also your life is a worship service. When you're giving over all your heart, mind, body and strength, expressing the praise to a father who has revealed himself through his son, man. That's worship. And so worship can be practicing the presence of God. Doesn't have to be in a church or at home. In your quiet time.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: It can be in your daily activity. And that's where you know that as long. I think one of the things is for. For you and for you, all of us. Matthew 6:33. Seek first his kingdom, his righteousness. Doesn't mean I'm, you know, that's done 24 7. Work, family, life, everything is. I want to make sure that I am what God wants me to be in this situation.
[00:43:21] Speaker C: Yeah. And you made a point Sunday, too, about the. In the way he was walking through that conversation with the woman at the well. And you also referenced John 3 also that he uses everyday life situations to explain, and that's it.
[00:43:37] Speaker A: He doesn't have What a gift.
[00:43:38] Speaker C: And I think that's something that is natural. Yeah, he really was.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: He's the son of God.
[00:43:43] Speaker C: Yeah, he does have that kind of going for him.
He's had that man, what a good teacher. Yeah, but he doesn't, you know, we. I caught myself this morning, I was praying and I don't remember exactly what the wording was, but I caught myself just trying to use these really big words that I don't usually use and I wouldn't even use them the right way. And I finally just, I kind of chuckled at myself mid sentence. I was like, you know what I mean? Forget that I got it.
You know what I mean? I mean I got to get going, get the kids ready. But. But yeah, I mean sometimes we, we don't want to necessarily. We don't think of God as teaching us something by something we saw on a, you know, watching a football game or something. We saw it recital at the kids school or something like that. But he speaks to us in every single way imaginable. And it doesn't, it's just. That's kind of where I'm going. I'm going back to that. Just, you know, seeking him is.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: Well, I think, I think one of the things you want to. You want to jump in, you gotta go with it.
[00:44:44] Speaker D: No, I didn't.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: I was trying to think of something, but I hadn't got.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: I'm gonna see if I can set you up. I'm gonna put the ball on.
[00:44:50] Speaker D: He hasn't had lunch, so.
[00:44:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna put the ball on T and see if you can drive down the fairway. I think one of the things that helps us to see God in the everyday is being thankful.
[00:45:01] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: And you want to take it from there. Give an example.
[00:45:05] Speaker B: Take it. Take the overall on that. Okay, I'm back.
No, but it is true when you become thankful, your heart opens up.
And I would say for me personally, knowing where God brought me from and where I could have been.
[00:45:21] Speaker A: Amen.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: You know, that's very thankful for that. And in the other, you know, and knowing that the God of this universe is bigger than you, but he loves you just as much as he loves anybody else.
And that's a, A very sobering experience. The thought that he loves you just as much as that. The good news is he loves me just as much as he does Ben.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: But the bad news, he loves being just as much as he loves me.
So, you know, there's just nobody, there's no favorites.
[00:45:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: And there's no extra credit.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And you don't have to be some great.
And I don't want to say this evangelist, preacher.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: I mean, I'm not Sunday school teacher against you or missionary.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: You witness one time, if that's what God's called you to do. Yeah. I mean, there's a guy to be obedient. There's a guy in the Bible that didn't do anything for the Lord, just repented on the cross.
And he's spread the gospel more than anybody in this room or that anybody has ever had.
Can you believe that? I don't even know his name.
[00:46:31] Speaker C: No.
[00:46:32] Speaker B: Just a thief. He's just a thief, as far as I know.
So it's important that we just stay within our element and just let God do the word.
[00:46:43] Speaker A: And being thankful helps you to see.
[00:46:46] Speaker B: It keeps you humble.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: Well, it keeps you humble and it resists pride.
But also being thankful.
If you can get to that place to where.
Okay, let's just face facts right now, Lord. All these trees we see and the beauty of what you've done, you begin to see God in that. I'm thankful, Lord, that in this situation it could have been a lot worse, but God, you had your hand in it. So you begin to see God. The more that you're thankful and the more that you. It kind of opens your eyes to be able to recognize that was God's hand. Yeah, that was God. Goodness.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: I'm going to hand it off to Brandon now.
Well, you got the. You got.
[00:47:24] Speaker D: Ben got you in there. Just because you've been sitting there. But we.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: I was worried about him.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: I think. I think he's been taking care of some issues and I do handles.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: I do have to leave in a few minutes.
[00:47:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: You got a. Is there anything.
[00:47:36] Speaker B: Big present that's gonna be.
[00:47:38] Speaker D: I know.
[00:47:39] Speaker A: Well, so do I, but you got one before the meeting.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:47:42] Speaker B: One before we're finished.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: I don't need to be in there. Right.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: We're going to be talking about you. I don't want you.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: I appreciate that.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: I want you there.
[00:47:51] Speaker D: So. Humming.
[00:47:53] Speaker B: I'm just kidding. Yeah.
[00:47:55] Speaker C: One of.
One of the best ways. I think I may have heard that expressed. Do you remember the NASCAR driver Carl Edwards?
[00:48:03] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:48:04] Speaker C: So have you seen his.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: Used to do a flip when he won, right?
[00:48:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I was a big fan of his, actually, when he was. That was my. That was my guy for Rusty retired.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: My kids liked him because he did the flip.
[00:48:12] Speaker C: Yeah. So have you seen his hall of fame speech? And he was on.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: He's in the hall of fame.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: You didn't know this?
[00:48:19] Speaker A: That must not be much of a hall of fame.
[00:48:20] Speaker C: You don't play much nowadays, so I.
[00:48:23] Speaker A: Bet probably junior or big either.
[00:48:28] Speaker D: Rusty's in there.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: Rusty's president.
[00:48:35] Speaker D: Do not edit that.
[00:48:36] Speaker C: I'm not at all, man.
[00:48:38] Speaker D: I'm.
[00:48:38] Speaker C: I'm a big Rusty fan.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: Yes, I have.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: So nice.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: Because I get a Charlotte.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: It's fun.
[00:48:43] Speaker C: It is pretty cool.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: It's pretty cool. Now I went in the juvenile stage. I bet it's even better now.
I know the coolest thing is pit stop. I got to do a pit stop. Is it in Charlotte or downtown?
[00:48:55] Speaker D: I've never been there.
[00:48:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:57] Speaker D: As much as a NASCAR fan. I've been. Yeah.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: I want to go see that dude.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: I think that's. We need to do our podcast from there one day.
[00:49:04] Speaker C: That would be fun.
[00:49:04] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:49:05] Speaker B: Hey, that would be.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: Let's. Let's leave on a Monday. We'll go stay down there and one Monday night. Eat.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: Have oysters.
[00:49:11] Speaker A: Oysters. Yes. And then we'll get up Tuesday and go into the NASCAR hall of Fame.
[00:49:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:17] Speaker D: They probably kick him out because all he talks about is rustic Rusty. I said, man, get out of here.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: Where's the two car? Where's the two car section background Right there.
[00:49:26] Speaker D: Right behind you.
[00:49:26] Speaker C: I'll tell you what, if I can whole section if we never pick out a time when they've got that black and gold car in there. That was great.
[00:49:32] Speaker A: But no, I think. I think it was when I was in there. There was a replica when I was there.
[00:49:37] Speaker C: The blue and white was there. He had the. The one of his later car. Like the 99, 2000 era.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:42] Speaker C: That was probably my least favorite.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: That's when racing started doing this.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:46] Speaker A: But now I will say the coolest thing is you get to walk up a. Like a 33 degree embankment. You begin to see. Good gracious, man. That's hard.
[00:49:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:54] Speaker D: I was in Charlotte one time.
[00:49:56] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:49:56] Speaker D: And I actually did pull him. I. I pulled my groin juke walk going up as a kid.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:03] Speaker D: Because you have to go to Charlotte every year, twice a year for the swap meet and swap meets out there and swap meets. Yeah. For classic car parts. Oh, car shows.
[00:50:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:50:14] Speaker D: And that was our thing go every year.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: So you pulled a muscle.
[00:50:17] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:50:18] Speaker A: That thing.
[00:50:19] Speaker D: Yes, sir.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: You didn't stretch or nothing before you went.
[00:50:23] Speaker D: It might have been like 10 or 10 alone.
[00:50:26] Speaker C: There's no joke.
[00:50:27] Speaker D: You get turn four.
[00:50:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
It's 24.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: Daytona and Talladega.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: 33 no.
[00:50:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:50:36] Speaker D: No, I haven't been out that way.
[00:50:38] Speaker B: I've drove by it.
It's in the middle of nowhere.
[00:50:42] Speaker A: Nowhere. Yeah.
[00:50:43] Speaker D: Oh, is that right?
[00:50:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Right on the road, though.
[00:50:46] Speaker B: It's right middle of Alabama.
Mid Alabama. Mid state.
[00:50:51] Speaker D: Is it right off the hallway?
[00:50:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:53] Speaker B: This is off to your left.
[00:50:54] Speaker D: Right.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: But it was not.
[00:50:57] Speaker D: I guess that's why the. You know, they say the party. They have so much parties there. I guess because that. There's nothing around there.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: Don't have many hotels because they don't go there. Twice a year. Yeah.
[00:51:08] Speaker C: Or once a year. Twice.
[00:51:09] Speaker D: I didn't know that. I thought.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: I mean, it's just out in the middle of.
I don't know how far Birmingham is from there, but it's pretty far.
[00:51:18] Speaker C: I don't know if this is true or not. I saw it on YouTube, so it must be.
There was a video talking about why does Talladega not have lights? And the answer that they gave for it was that there wasn't. The power grid wouldn't support it. I don't know if that's true or not, but that the. The infrastructure out there was.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: So there's no electricity.
[00:51:37] Speaker C: I do think there's electricity.
[00:51:39] Speaker D: How you think. You see the broadcast and all that?
[00:51:42] Speaker B: Satellite.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: Satellite and Bluetooth.
[00:51:46] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:51:46] Speaker C: I don't want to forget my point for bringing up the hall of Fame.
[00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:49] Speaker C: This actually was. I do want to say this. So, Carl. So I. I didn't realize this about him. I guess since he retired. I guess he's gotten saved since he retired from racing.
So when he did his hall of Fame induction, he talked about that a little bit. And then he came on Dell Jr. S podcast and talked about it there in a little bit more detail.
And the way he. He words it is that if he writes down a list of. If he gets a piece of paper out and writes down every single thing that he got on his own that God didn't give him, then he's got a blank sheet of paper. And I think that, Carl, sometimes just thinking through that, you talk about how do we stay humble or have humiliated. Everything that. From the breath in your lungs, your kids, your family, your everything, success in life, anything that you have, if you keep that mentality that it.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: It.
[00:52:37] Speaker C: Everything you have is from him, that helps with gratitude. And then you talk about.
And humility. And then also thinking about how far he'll go out of his way for that lost sheep. And.
And then remembering that it may seem off the wall for you, but if he. If he has to Send you from here to the ends of the earth for that one person. That's what he's going to do. And you don't need to know. And you're not necessarily entitled to an explanation for every single thing he does. Just know that. Whatever.
It's, it's. It's. Again, signing your name to that piece of paper and saying whatever you want to do with me. And I think that's. I don't know. I said this on the show or if I said it to Mom. One of the things that I've been praying lately is I don't even necessarily need to know. Keep me in your wheel. Even if I don't even know why I'm there or that I'm there, just keep me there. Because I may. I'm always looking for, am I doing the right thing? What's he want me to do? Maybe I'm.
Don't even.
Even if I don't get to know that I'm in. In the right spot. Just keep me in the right spot. And even if I, you know, I don't need to know every single thing that you're doing or why you're doing it or whatever.
[00:53:42] Speaker D: Just one thing about doing that.
You grow in your daily spirit with the Lord each day. Right.
[00:53:49] Speaker C: I remember saying maybe on the first show that as long as I knew I was where God wanted me, I didn't care why that was.
[00:53:54] Speaker A: Right.
[00:53:55] Speaker C: And I guess I'm maybe even starting to get to the point that even if I'm not sure if I'm in the right spot or not where he wants me, as long as he knows that I'm in the right spot. I'm trying to be cool with that, too, because there's times that I don't know if I'm in the right spot or not. But I'm trying. We're always defined, you know. You're always gonna wrestle who you are.
[00:54:10] Speaker A: You're gonna wrestle with that.
[00:54:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:12] Speaker C: And it's trying to remember that even my own understanding is not something I'm entitled to. That's just, you know.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: No, that's exactly right.
[00:54:19] Speaker C: And because we think we are entitled to understanding. I think. And that's one of the things that's important to realize. We don't even. That that's a gift from God too. It's not something that we just automatically get because we.
He gives it to us graciously the way he wants to do it.
[00:54:34] Speaker A: Right.
[00:54:35] Speaker C: It doesn't mean we're going to get every single answer right when we Want it?
[00:54:37] Speaker A: No. No, no, no.
But you will have some answers. But not. Maybe not all you needing or all you're wanting.
[00:54:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:45] Speaker A: He doesn't owe them to us. So I don't think.
[00:54:47] Speaker D: I think that's one.
[00:54:49] Speaker B: I was just writing things through.
[00:54:50] Speaker C: Right.
[00:54:50] Speaker A: Major chart.
[00:54:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:52] Speaker A: All right.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Things that God can't forgive you if you ask him to read them.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: Go ahead, read this.
[00:54:59] Speaker A: No. He numbered it one through five and there's nothing.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: And what he can't do.
[00:55:05] Speaker A: Things that God can't do for you.
Okay.
[00:55:08] Speaker D: Very good.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:55:12] Speaker A: Brandon was expecting you to have something on there.
[00:55:14] Speaker D: Yeah.
Things that God can't forgive.
[00:55:18] Speaker B: If you ask me.
[00:55:19] Speaker A: If you ask him.
[00:55:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: Well, I said that. Yeah.
[00:55:22] Speaker D: The keywords can. He can. There is not that does.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: But see, I had a hard time.
[00:55:26] Speaker D: He could do all.
[00:55:28] Speaker A: Yeah. You said won't forgive you of if you don't. If you don't ask. Right.
[00:55:33] Speaker D: Right. Yeah, that changes things.
[00:55:35] Speaker C: Yeah. You got can't.
[00:55:36] Speaker B: Can't.
[00:55:37] Speaker D: You're good.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah.
[00:55:39] Speaker D: That's why it's blank. We understand.
[00:55:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
But you can't. But the point is, you can't be too bad for God.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:55:48] Speaker B: Can't be too evil for God.
[00:55:49] Speaker D: Nothing too small or too big.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: The blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not necessarily. It's a rejection of God.
[00:55:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: And when you die, you can't go back.
[00:55:59] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:55:59] Speaker B: That's why it says the Holy Spirit. Blasphemy against God, you can be forgiven. Blaspheming against Jesus, you can't be forgiven. But you can't be blasphemed against the Holy Spirit because Holy Spirit is what draws you to him.
And once you pass. Pass away.
God can't draw you.
There's no saving grace.
[00:56:19] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:56:22] Speaker C: Well, we're done. You gotta go it.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. That was a great list. Do you want to put that on the camera?
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
I'm surprised.
[00:56:31] Speaker C: Camera. I think.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: I think. I think the phone got. Got a notification on.
[00:56:37] Speaker C: Was just telling me the battery was dead or dying.
[00:56:40] Speaker B: Things that God can't work out for you. And I'm talking about that he can't give you.
I like that.
[00:56:47] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:56:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Well, she want to use it just.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: And then. I appreciate that.
[00:56:51] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: Fine.
[00:56:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I can make you a coffee.
[00:56:56] Speaker A: All right.
[00:56:56] Speaker C: All right, guys. See y' all next time.
[00:56:58] Speaker A: Bye. Everybody got a homework assignment.
[00:57:00] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, we got homework. We never even went over last week's homework.
[00:57:04] Speaker A: I know. I want to know always give you this.
[00:57:07] Speaker D: I asked because I thought, well, okay.
[00:57:08] Speaker C: Well, we never did it.
[00:57:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you haven't brought it. You haven't.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: You got to bring them up.
[00:57:13] Speaker B: Yeah, you gotta have.
[00:57:14] Speaker C: There are four people in this room.
[00:57:15] Speaker A: That don't matter. I forgot.
Honestly, sometimes I forget what I said.
That's why I don't bring it up until we. Oh, we're just.
[00:57:23] Speaker B: We didn't know what to all talk about because it's the podcast we saved it from.
[00:57:27] Speaker A: What we saved it supposed to do today.
[00:57:30] Speaker B: Yeah, but we didn't know that.
I was waiting for it to hear the answers.
[00:57:33] Speaker C: Oh, we're waiting on you for the answer.
[00:57:35] Speaker A: But you said you had to have.
[00:57:37] Speaker B: Well, I didn't bring them with me because I thought you already did it.
[00:57:41] Speaker D: I asked him if they saw a dead fit, you know, a fish float them because it would have shocked them. That was almost 30amps going through there. So it would have killed that been.
[00:57:47] Speaker B: One of those electric.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: Even under water.
[00:57:50] Speaker D: Even worse.
Don't dead at that.
[00:57:54] Speaker B: Keep that.
[00:57:55] Speaker C: Please keep that.
[00:57:57] Speaker D: A man trying to do all these full SL equals. I mean, electricity and water. Come on. That'll mix.
[00:58:04] Speaker A: Val camera did one.
[00:58:07] Speaker C: Who'S yours take his tag off.
[00:58:15] Speaker A: That's a nice shirt, though. I do like that. Looks kind of lumberjacky.