September 05, 2025

00:54:03

Knowing God

Knowing God
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Knowing God

Sep 05 2025 | 00:54:03

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Show Notes

There's a subtle, but huge difference, between knowing about God, and having a personal relationship with Him.

You can know that God is all powerful and all knowing, without experiencing the peace that comes from trusting Him. 

You can know that God forgives sin, without experiencing the grace of His forgiveness for the worst thing you've ever done. 

You can know that God wants you to have joy, without experiencing the patience He shows while you fight His plans to provide it. 

You can know that Jesus paid for your access to this relationship, without feeling the love that compelled Him to pay such a price.

Knowing God, vs. knowing about God, is a distinction that makes all the difference. 

 

Chapters

  • (00:00:02) - Swimming in the Pool
  • (00:03:08) - TRAVEL: Adventures along the Mississippi
  • (00:04:11) - Strengthening Yourself in the Lord
  • (00:05:09) - Lost Phone
  • (00:06:02) - Strengthening Yourself in the Lord
  • (00:12:01) - Trusting God
  • (00:16:18) - Heavenly Wait: Praying For Changes
  • (00:19:45) - How to Strengthen Our Souls in the Lord
  • (00:26:24) - Part 3 of Humility
  • (00:31:57) - Knowing About God and Knowing God
  • (00:36:37) - Getting Away From the World
  • (00:41:45) - Quiet Time on Vacation
  • (00:46:08) - Pray Without Ceasing for the Lord
  • (00:48:16) - Another homework assignment for Philippians
  • (00:48:33) - Philippians 1:21: To Live Is Christ
  • (00:52:16) - Andy Griffith on His Face
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:02] Speaker A: There's a difference in knowing about God and knowing God. And that's a big, big part of it. It's easy to know about God and to know what he's about and to hear. But, you know, once you really do get to know God, you might find out that the person that was telling you about what, maybe they were a. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Little off ideas you had or the picture you had is totally different, might. [00:00:18] Speaker A: Be a little off. And I don't think you can beat this drum enough that there's a difference in showing up to church every Sunday and thinking you're a Christian, you know, intellectually or whatever as opposed to having that living relationship with him and that active relationship with him there' and night and day. And when you talk about eternal life, I try to remind myself that eternal life has already started for us. That's something you told me a long time ago. [00:00:40] Speaker B: You know, abundant life is now. [00:00:41] Speaker A: That's right. [00:00:42] Speaker C: It's forever. And that's a long time. [00:00:50] Speaker B: I love it. I like it. [00:00:51] Speaker C: So how. [00:00:51] Speaker A: How far later? [00:00:53] Speaker C: How much? [00:00:53] Speaker B: He just saw you in good shape. We're good. [00:00:56] Speaker C: Yeah, but I thought you won a con. We were like 24 minutes off. [00:00:59] Speaker A: That's right. I just gotta leave. But so I was thinking about it last year. I worked it out. I just have Heather get the kids every Tuesday. And that way we wouldn't have to be rushing around for this. [00:01:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:01:10] Speaker A: But I just noticed thinking about it this year with Christian having to wait on him till 4. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Northwest. [00:01:15] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, okay, well, I wait on him to get here at 4. So I'm just kind of hanging out from, you know, whatever, three to four or whatever. And then after I get him, I gotta drive all the way to Garner to get the kids and get back. [00:01:25] Speaker B: And just go up to the Hilltop and get them and come back. [00:01:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So I was thinking now I can go get. Go get the. Drop them off at the apartment and then get back down here and get him. [00:01:33] Speaker B: I had every intention of being here at one but I got a call from my brother saying, hey, I need help with the lawnmower. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I went and had to do a couple repairs to get him back on the men. [00:01:45] Speaker A: All good. I appreciate you bending around, trying to be here earlier. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Oh, man. Well, I don't see Nobody wanting the 1.1 billion yet, so boys. But win it. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Still got a shot. [00:01:57] Speaker B: I'll cut you a little something something. [00:01:59] Speaker C: I would hope so. I'm your best friend, aren't I? [00:02:03] Speaker B: I'd buy You a grapevine. [00:02:06] Speaker A: I was telling the kids, you know, we couldn't go to the pool. I said, it's cold. I mean, it's like the Lord just skipped August this year. [00:02:11] Speaker B: And I'm okay with it. [00:02:13] Speaker A: I'm okay with it. [00:02:13] Speaker B: We're gonna get a little bit of it. [00:02:15] Speaker C: We're gonna get some. [00:02:16] Speaker A: But I told him, I said, the pool's kind of cold. I said, I went over there the other night and I said, I just dipped my toe in. I said, it's cold as I couldn't touch it. And Gabe said, would you get in it for $10? I said, no. He said, for a hundred? I said, no. He said, what about for a million? I said, for a million, I'd jump in neck and swim around for an hour. Million? [00:02:33] Speaker B: No, Come on. [00:02:34] Speaker A: I can do a lot of things. I'd do a lot of things for 10 bucks. [00:02:37] Speaker C: I would do more than what I would want. I'm looking at. Yes, I would say that, but I'd probably do 100. [00:02:42] Speaker B: I mean, I jump in cold water. [00:02:44] Speaker A: You being the swimming guru aficionado that you are. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I set myself up. [00:02:49] Speaker C: All right. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:51] Speaker C: And I was thinking about that. I've just thought about that. You don't need Fly to New York. Just swim up there. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Swim. [00:02:56] Speaker B: I'll go up to Atlantic. Yeah. [00:02:57] Speaker C: Get on the go off stream. He'll take you right on up there. You'd be up there about with the drift these days? [00:03:03] Speaker B: About a couple weeks. [00:03:04] Speaker C: No. Day and a half, maybe. [00:03:07] Speaker B: I ain't that good to swim. [00:03:08] Speaker A: No. [00:03:08] Speaker C: But the current, the drift coming up. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:11] Speaker C: Getting that strong. You just got to. [00:03:15] Speaker B: If you can move me a whole day and a half to New York, I might take it. You just have to float slow boat to China. [00:03:19] Speaker C: That's all you gotta do. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Slow boat. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Oh, man, I tell you, one of the things I've been looking at is I'd love. I think we talked about this. I'd love one day Renee and I were going to take a train across the country. But it ain't the same like it is overseas. But I'm tempted to do. Have y' all seen those cruises up and down Mississippi? Yeah, they look fun. Riverboat cruise. [00:03:43] Speaker C: I know Ed Seagroves. [00:03:46] Speaker B: He did one. Yeah, I'll ask him. [00:03:49] Speaker C: I think I believe they did one. [00:03:51] Speaker B: Oh, I'll ask him if he liked it. [00:03:53] Speaker C: I think those are more for gambling people. But that might be you. [00:03:57] Speaker B: No, I think it's. But I think it's like a cruise. It's got good food it's got good fruit. It ain't like you out there. [00:04:03] Speaker C: That's what they're selling. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Really? [00:04:04] Speaker C: Gambling. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah. But you stop at all the different cities. I'd love to stop at various cities along the Mississippi. [00:04:11] Speaker A: Well, welcome back to the other 167. Yes. [00:04:15] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:16] Speaker A: Got at least three kind of. Well, I think these are three topics we can kind of dig deep into. I want to finish up where we started last week. Strengthening yourself in the Lord. I did go back and read the Psalms 56, 59, 63. [00:04:29] Speaker C: Not going to introduce us. I thought maybe panel. [00:04:31] Speaker A: I'm sorry, Kenny. [00:04:34] Speaker B: Kenny who needs no introduction. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah, Kenny Jam man. Who's Lee Brandon's favorite commentator, according to Kenny. And. [00:04:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:44] Speaker A: And Pastor Ben Pierce. And I'm Garrett, if you happen to be one of the, you know, your first time here. But anyway, good to see y'. All. We'll be a little bit fast tracked today. I think this might be a little shorter episode than we have had. But I want to pick up where we left off last week. I think that is a topic I'd like to dig in a little bit more on. Strengthen yourself in the Lord, man. I think it's a great topic in some ways too. I might can. I've kind of taken that. And then that's kind of led me to a second topic. Maybe it's. It's just a bridge. They're not related, but one kind of bridge into the other. There's Kenny's phone. [00:05:18] Speaker C: We found it updated for the listeners. [00:05:20] Speaker A: We didn't get this record, but I just wanted on the record that we were about 15 minutes late starting recording today. Cause Kenny had to go find his phone. [00:05:27] Speaker C: It was in my back pocket. [00:05:28] Speaker B: We were at 8 because of me. 15 because of Kenny's phone. [00:05:32] Speaker A: And Kenny goes. Walks back up to his truck. [00:05:34] Speaker C: It wasn't me. It was my phone. [00:05:35] Speaker A: It was his phone. It was your phone's fault. [00:05:38] Speaker C: Couldn't find it. The phone was in my pocket. [00:05:39] Speaker B: Couldn't find his phone. And he went to his truck looking it and then all of a sudden found it in his back pocket. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Between me, Gabe and Kenny, I about had it up to my neck with ADD and forgetfulness and got be able to find stuff and finding phones. [00:05:51] Speaker B: He'd put an air tag on it. [00:05:52] Speaker A: Yeah, Gabe lost day. And it was like it was in his hand kind of thing. I've literally seen him looking for things. It's like, dude, you're holding it. [00:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:59] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:06:00] Speaker B: Lord have mercy. Yes, yes, yes. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Anyway, but yeah, how would you we kind of touched on it last week. But talk about what it means to strengthen yourself in the Lord. And I'll go off a couple of verses from those that I. From the Psalms that you gave that I kind of highlighted here. [00:06:16] Speaker B: I think if you really. I mean, you gotta paint the picture of what has happened to David. David has went out and fought a battle, and in the meantime, another set of enemies has come in, burned his whole camp, kidnapped his family, kidnapped all his men's family. They come back to the camp, and, boy, they're brokenhearted. Everything's gone. I mean, gone. Even my children, my wife, all gone. And his men said, man, we've been following you, and you've done led us here. And they're about ready to stone him. They about set to pick up stones, and they're in that place, it says, and David strengthened himself, encouraged himself in the Lord. And my challenge was, how do we do that? What does it mean? What does it look like? And if you go to the Psalms, a lot of times, you'll find where David, in some of these situations, it might not have been that same one at Ziklag, but in some of these situations, man, he is. You see him crying out. You see him saying, yet I will do this. Yet I will do this. And those, I think, is the way. I think those steps, if you look at them, tell us how and what it means to strengthen ourselves in the Lord, because undoubtedly there's going to be times when we have to do that. [00:07:31] Speaker A: There was one verse in Psalm 62, which this was not one of the ones you read. [00:07:36] Speaker B: But I ended up. [00:07:36] Speaker A: They were all so close together. I read 56 and 59, and it's like, well, I'll read 58. Yeah, I ended up reading about all of them from 59 through 63. But in Psalm 62, verse 2, he only is my rock and my salvation. I've heard he's my rock and my salvation. But that part only, I think is a key part of it, is understanding he alone. That can be the difference, because when he's part of the solution, it's not going to get a whole lot done. [00:08:02] Speaker B: He is the solution. [00:08:03] Speaker A: There's another verse that I highlighted that's kind of tied to that. Yeah, this is in Psalm 60. Deliverance by man is in vain. Through God we shall do valiantly, and it is he who will tread down our adversaries. But that part of deliverance by man is in vain. You know, there's just. That's right before. That's Psalm 60 and then Psalm 62 is, he only is my rock and my salvation. But I think one of the things that I'm guilty of, and I think a lot of people are guilty of, is making God a part of the solution, but not leaning solely on Him. [00:08:36] Speaker B: Absolutely. And I think that is the. I had three steps, and that's one of them is you got to place your trust in him. That, okay, you're going to trust that he is going to deliver you. And that in itself is because oftentimes what we'll do is we'll start resorting to our own means of providing deliverance, and we start working schemes and working this way and that way just to try to fix the situation. And at times, I don't know that there's anything wrong with that, as long as it's led by the Lord. Because I think a lot of times the Lord does gift us with abilities and talents to be able to figure out problems without having to, you know, oh, we better wait a long time on this. No, the old saying, if you see a snake, you don't need to appoint a committee on snakes. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Kill them. [00:09:21] Speaker B: At the same time, there's wisdom in counsel. And so. But getting to the place to where I trust only Him. And you got it exactly right. So that's a big piece of it, is placing your trust that God's going to do what he says he's going to do. That's the first one. What else did you find? [00:09:37] Speaker A: Well, that's. Trust in him is a key theme of all of those Psalms 56 through 63. I mean, I'm looking at Psalm 56, verse three. When I'm afraid I will put my trust in you In God whose word I praise In God I have put my trust I shall not be afraid. Verse 9. This I know that God is for me Psalm 59. 9. For God is my stronghold. Psalm 62, verse 8. Trust in him at all times. Oh, people. I mean, trust in the Lord. Pretty common theme throughout all of those psalms that David's talking about. Trusting in him and him alone is one that. Yeah, I mean, that's one of my hardest things. I want to help Him. [00:10:23] Speaker B: He needs my help. [00:10:24] Speaker A: That's right. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Right. I think another thing is. And you hit it, you read it. It's a single word right there. But if you go through those psalms that I mentioned and throughout others, he continues to praise. I think praise is one of the ways that. Because what happens oftentimes when we find ourselves needing strength from the Lord, it usually is in a Time when it's a time of discouragement, a time of loss, a time of desperation, that's when you really need to begin praising more. Because as we praise, we begin to take our eyes off the problem and begin to look towards the problem solver. And I think so trust, yes. Praise, yes. And then I think the other one is it is that meditating and reminding yourself of the promises. So you could almost make the three P's place your trust, praise and then last but not least, the promises. Know the promises that he's made, that if he's going to work all things out together for good, if he is always with us, if his goodness and mercy follow me every day of my life, then it's following me even now in the midst of this yuck that I'm in. And so I think those are a couple of the things you can do. [00:11:39] Speaker C: A lot of times. And actually I'm really talking to myself a lot of times when I pray, I already know what the answer is. But when I say that I already know what I'm going to do is basically what I'm saying. Not that that's the right answer. And I think a lot of Christians are where we really know what we're going to do, but because we're supposed to. We're supposed to pray about it. [00:12:01] Speaker A: You're going to the Lord for approval? Not for approval. Yes. Not for his stitches. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Sign off. [00:12:07] Speaker C: Put your hands on here. Yeah, because you know, that's the, I guess Baptist stiff arm. I'll pray about it, you know. Yeah, it's. But we already know what we're going to do. [00:12:16] Speaker B: I have final. I got a funny thing I can. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Throw in here in a minute. [00:12:20] Speaker C: I have and I have. When I've done that, I haven't been as successful. But when I don't know anything what to do at all has been my greatest victories because I lean strictly on the Lord because I don't know what to do. But there is a balancing act in having common sense and praying. There is a balance act of trusting God, but also using your common sense. And I've come to the conclusion on trusting God. It's easier for me to trust God now because Than I used to because I didn't think how. I didn't realize how big God was. You know, we've hear that God's the man upstairs or well, yeah, he's the man upstairs, but he's a little bit bigger than that. [00:13:15] Speaker B: A lot bigger than that. [00:13:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Well, he's not some old man sitting on the Throne. [00:13:20] Speaker C: And he is right now, he's in my heart, in your heart. He's around us, and he's also solving problems a billion miles away, all at the same time. And so. And one time I was flying. I might have told this. I don't know. I was flying to a job interview, which I got. But it was. But I didn't pray about that job. It was the worst job I ever had. I made the most money I've ever made, but it's the worst job I've ever had. I just didn't really pray hard enough about it. I was more focused on how much money it was and not would I be happy about it. But anyway, as I was leaving, you know, I could see everything around me inside the cockpit, you know, here, here, you know, people in there could see out the window as it took off. I could see more. When I finally got up high enough, I could see the whole city. And I could see, like, I could see that car going this way, and that's all they could see. But I could see this car coming there. And they're going to have a crash. Yeah. I'm just doing a hypothetical case. And if I realize, well, that's how God is. He can see everything all at once and knows it, why can't I trust him? He says he's trustworthy. [00:14:41] Speaker A: Well, and he says he sees it down to. He can see the street level also, though. He can see all things at one time, right? Yeah. It's not just that. He can see the big picture, but he can't see the details. See, up there, you can see everything up there. You can see the big picture, but you can't see the details. Right. [00:14:57] Speaker C: I can't see anything past. I don't even know what's going on outside that window on the left to right. [00:15:01] Speaker A: But see, up there, you can see those cars about to hit each other. You can't see what's going on on the sidewalk, really. It's too small for you. He can see it all at. Everywhere. [00:15:08] Speaker C: That's what. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah. At the same time. And that's hard to comprehend, that he can hand. He has everything from the smallest details up to the biggest details and the biggest. He can see everything at the same time. That's the hard thing in my case. [00:15:20] Speaker C: I can see the sidewalk. That's all I can see. But I don't know what's coming after I turn that corner. But he sees it all. [00:15:30] Speaker A: I'll back up. [00:15:31] Speaker B: I was just going to add one more P to it. If you go to Psalm 63. 8. I think it's a key verse that says, my soul clings to you. Your right hand takes hold of me. I mean, that is the pursue. You need to continue to pursue him and stay close. And I love some versions have a little bit different when it says, my soul clings to you. Some of them have, I follow right after you. You know, in other words, I'm going to stick like glue to see exactly where you're leading, where you're taking us, what you want, and then we go from there. So four P's. How about that? I'm gonna do that as a motion one day. [00:16:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Which P was that one? [00:16:13] Speaker B: It's a blessing and a curse. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Backing up, I think, just a little bit here. I said there were kind of bridges to each of these topics, and I think maybe I just need to back up and explain the backstory behind some of these things. So the last several months, and me and you talked about this a little bit last week after the show, but last several months, I've been very frustrated and just discouraged, I think, a little bit, because I have seeked God in everything that I've done. And I've tried to be mindful of not taking too much control for myself and just trusting. And there's been a couple of things that have been interesting to me. The things that I tried really, really hard to make work for a long time didn't work. And then when I quit trying, something fell in my lap that I had nothing to do with. And that was kind of a lesson to me that, hey, you know, just trusting him. And I've been kind of. I don't want to say foot off the gas, but just kind of sitting around waiting, you know, where you want to go, where you want to go, and trying to follow the little nudgings. And every time I felt a nudging, here I go check it out, and there's nothing there. And then I feel another nudge here, and I go check it out and nothing's there. And the whole time trying not to do what I want to do, which is just take control back and do things that I know. There was a time probably 18 months or so ago that I was trying and trying and trying and trying everything I could think of. I was throwing everything to the kitchen sink at different things, and nothing was working. And it just got to a point where it was like I was just trying for the sake of trying. I knew it wasn't gonna work, but it's like, I gotta try Something. I can't just sit here and do nothing. And I didn't wanna repeat that. When I had seen him put so many things into place while I was maybe doing other things, he fixed these other areas. And I just thought, I'm just gonna sit back and see what he does and just try to, you know, seek him, follow him and see what he does with things. And then I've just kind of sat here and, you know, several months have passed and nothing's happened, nothing's worked out, and I'm just sitting here like, all right, well, now what, Lord? Like, he hadn't done anything that I can see. I told Mom a few weeks ago, I feel like he's up to something. I think he's behind all of these things that I'm seeing, but I just don't know what he's doing. And, you know, one of the things you said last week was a passing comment, which is true, as it could be, is sometimes we got to be okay not knowing what he's doing. I mean, that's not always promised to us, right? But right now I'm just like, okay, it goes back to something I've said a bunch of times. I don't necessarily need to know what he's doing. I just want to know that it's him that's put me in this situation and not my own. [00:18:34] Speaker B: Where are you leading and not my own, Right? [00:18:37] Speaker A: Did I get lazy and that's what got me here? Or was I finally learning how to let off the gas and let you drive? And this is just where you wanted to take me? I don't like where you brought me if that's the case at all, being honest about it. But if he's the one that brought me here, fine. If I brought me here, well, then I need you to show me what I did wrong. So I, you know, what do you want me to do to correct this? And I'm just. I've got this little tug of war going in my mind right now. And I feel mostly most days like. Because I keep going back and looking at those checkpoints, you know, Did I hear him here? Yes. Did I act on it? Yes. Okay. Did I hear him here? Yes. Did I act on it? Yes. And I can't find the place where I took the wrong turn necessarily. Now, my hindsight's not very perfect. I've missed a lot of things that took me years to figure out. But I can't see specifically where I misstepped over the last six months, nine months, 12 months, whatever. But I can see that things haven't worked out right. So is that just what he's trying to do, or is that. You know. And I'm not asking that necessarily as a question. I'm just saying that that's kind of what I'm struggling with a little bit. Is this. You know, was this me or was this. This is where he wanted me for this very second. And that kind of let. So the other day, in going back to answer the question, how do we strengthen ourselves in the Lord. I went for a walk the other day, and it was a long walk, and I just went to the park and started walking. I didn't really have much of a map for where I wanted to go. I just started following trails and said, we'll go wherever, and just started praying. It was a long, probably hour and a half walk, probably about four miles. And I just prayed the whole time. And I was mindful of what I prayed, I guess not to just pray for him to help me. I think that's what I'm so guilty of, just making my prayers. I started catching up on all the whole prayer list of things that I've been meaning to pray for and trying to pray for for the last six months for other people. Tried to focus on that a little bit and trying to focus on how big God is to Kenny's point and how not how small I am to him. I know I'm important to him, but how small I am as a part of his overall creation. And that my. My situation is a dot on the beach compared to all the things that he's got going on and all the things that matter in the world. My current situation is pretty insignificant compared to a lot of others. In praying for other people and praying for things that are. I feel so selfish in my prayers, and I'm trying so hard to work on that. But at the same time, I feel like when I don't pray for my needs, that God knows I'm not fooling him. He knows what I really want. [00:21:09] Speaker B: Nothing wrong with asking for a daily bread. He tells us to. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Right? Right. And the more of my prayers I spend on other people and on other situations and even on the things like praying for my kids that's praying for me, but it's praying for them, too. Right. It's not strictly for my benefit. It's for them. And for every time I pass somebody at the park, I pray for that person, whoever they were. And you just start to get an idea of how much there is going on in the world. That there is to pray for and how many important things there are out there. And the more you do that, it just slowly starts to dilute your own problems a little bit. To where I found some peace in that. And when I was done with the whole thing, I just kind of said, lord, this is the state of mind I'm looking for. Can you please keep me here? Where I'm just. Yes, mindful of the fact that you've got me, but also mindful of how many other things there are in the world to pray for and how many other things there are in the world to care about besides my own problems. [00:22:05] Speaker B: And I think that is one of the keys to praying is that it's not all about my selfish desires. It's about his kingdom, his agenda, his will to be done. At the same time, he tells us to pray for our daily bread. He tells us to pray for others. And so I think when you can get to that place of realizing God cares about the micro, man. He does. He cares about the micro. I'm going to talk a little bit about that in a couple of Sundays when Jesus is at a wedding. I mean, technically, I mean, that wasn't a miracle that healed somebody or did anything else he didn't really have to do was more. It really wasn't a need per se. They could have just let them folks be embarrassed for running out of wine at a wedding. But he did do it. And there was a little, I wouldn't say reluctance, but there's a good argument. Not argument, but a good little exchange between Jesus and Mary. Nothing disrespectful or nothing, but he's all about the Father's agenda. But the fact that Jesus was at a wedding and did something to help a big problem for those folks. Now to everybody else in the world, that wasn't that big of a problem. I don't know, there could be a wedding right now. People are running out of something. It don't bother me. But still God cares about our micro. So don't disregard that. At the same time, when your heart gets to where. And again, I like to call it in tune with God, it becomes less about what I want and what I need and all these things to what. There's a bigger picture out there and still at the same time, Lord, you know where I'm at, you know who I'm hurting, you know what I need. I'm not sure exactly which way to go. He cares about that. So there is a. I'd like to just call it a good mixture we talked about with Daniel, when you looked at that prayer as Daniel 9:1 19, first, 14, 15 verses, nothing but confession. Then it was the petitions, was the last four. So I think that's a good balance of maybe confession and praying for others and praying for God's will to be done. Then we get to the petition. And then even in the petition, it's not, oh, Lord, take me back to Jerusalem, Lord, I'm ready to sit up and live off my ira. No, it is for your sake, your kingdom, your temple, your city, your people, Lord, we want to see your name made great. So I think there is a balance, and there's nothing wrong with praying for the micro. I think what we do oftentimes though, is we get so focused on this that we miss there's a big world out there. And when you start seeing people walking up to you and you begin praying for them, that's when you begin to realize, okay, Lord, you're putting your heart in my heart. Because that's not something we normally do, especially perfect strangers, whether it's praying for their salvation, being gripped by the fact that, man, there's a lot of lost people around and, man, that's a God thing. And so maybe that's a big piece of this, that maybe the Lord had to take you to a time of slowing down and kind of, oh, we're on a holding pattern right now. And I think oftentimes he doesn't answer us so that when we get in that holding pattern, okay, who are you going to seek? Who you going to trust? Who you going to roll with? And oftentimes, if you know it's not a sin, you know, it's not something that, okay, I disobeyed, walked out on. No, usually it's something that maybe he wants to build your character or he's preparing you for something. He's got, again, that big picture of he sees the end from the beginning, so he knows what's in store down here. He's got to get you ready for it. For there. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Yeah. One of the takeaways from that. This is almost backwards. Like, I'm almost summarizing the section that we just talked about, maybe in a way. But talk so much about pride and humility as opposites one another, I suppose. But there's I don't know how many different hundred versions of varieties of pride. But there's also, you could say probably that many versions of humility, too. Because humility, to me, as I learn more about it. Yeah, I guess I would have thought about humility as being the opposite of arrogant. And I think that's one version of it, but it's not the only version of it. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Because God hates arrogance, right? [00:26:16] Speaker A: And so I think it's, how would I say this? To be arrogant is a lack of humility. But just because you're not arrogant doesn't mean you have humility. That by itself doesn't. There's more to it. [00:26:26] Speaker B: It's multifaceted. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Because one of the things, you know, I've been arrogant. I think I'm less arrogant now than I was two or three years ago. But I can make a really strong case for the fact I just don't have that much to be arrogant about right this very second. You know, I can swim to golf club pretty good. Beyond that, I don't know what else I've got to brag about. That being said, that's not the only form of humility that we have to work on with me. Because another part of humility is selfishness. Now I can be humble in the sense that I'm not very cocky just because I'm selfishly kind of looking at, well, I don't have anything going for me. Well, that's a different version of pride, right? [00:27:02] Speaker B: That's a false humility, right? [00:27:04] Speaker A: It is. So then. But the absence of this is horrible and well, not the worst analogy. But I got this from watching a show last night, an older show about 20 years ago, everybody Loves Raymond. He's not arrogant. Raymond's not. But he is selfish. If you watch that show very much, he's very self centered. And that was what the episode was about last night. His wife was telling him, you're selfish. All you think about yourself. And he does. He's not boastful, but he is self centered. And that's something where I'm not as boastful as I was a few years ago, but I'm still pretty self centered. And you see that in my prayers when 80% of it's praying for things that I want or I need and I'm trying to, you know, I just barely remember the prayers of others a lot of times. And yeah, that's a, that's really bad too. Even if I'm not bragging about all the good things I've got going on, I'm still basically selfish with looking at all the things I don't have. [00:27:55] Speaker B: It's still self centered. [00:27:56] Speaker A: It's still self centered. And there's. That's just two examples of different versions of humility. But don't. Just because you don't brag a lot. Don't mistake that for thinking you're humble. [00:28:07] Speaker B: No, and I think we, you know, we've defined humility on the stage on this show, and I've done it on the sermons is, you know, it's not thinking less of yourself, it's thinking of self less. [00:28:21] Speaker A: That's right. [00:28:21] Speaker B: And so it can. It's not necessarily, oh, I'm not that good at this. I'm not that good at. No, it is. I'm not concerned about what is in it for me. I'm not all about, I got to be seen, I got to be heard. I got to be. No, it's more about I want Christ to be seen in me. And so I think that's the big piece of it is. And again, I would go to Galatians 2:20 as being kind of the catalyst, if you will, for what humility is. 219 and 20. I've been crucified with Christ, but yet I live. Not I, but Christ now lives in me. So it's not about me. No, me self got crucified with Christ, now it's Christ in me. And that leads you more towards the humility. Philippians 2, 5, 11. Really 6 through 115 tells us, have this attitude in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who humbled himself, made himself nothing, taking on the form of a slave, did not grab or did not think equality with God was something to be held onto, but instead limited himself, made himself nothing, and took on the form of a slave. And even to the point of death. Obedience to the point of death, death on a cross. So that's the attitude of humility that we are supposed to have. One of the things we did Sunday was I gave four texts for our homework assignment was four texts to read. Go home and look at these texts. Get a good picture of who Christ is. Because I don't know that you can truly understand what Christ did for you until you truly understand who he is. Because when you understand who he is now, what he did for you is so much more so that when you see in John 1, in the beginning was the Word. When you see the Word became flesh. When you see Colossians 1, he is the agent of creation, and by him, for him, and through him, all things were created. You see in Hebrews, that is the spoken revelation of God is Jesus. Then you look at Philippians 2 and you look at his humility. It helps us to say, okay, now I understand what he did and just how great this salvation is. And we don't want to neglect that. [00:30:36] Speaker C: You can't understand forgiveness if you don't, if you're not aware you're a sinner. [00:30:45] Speaker A: Mm. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Agreed. [00:30:48] Speaker C: So you can't understand the good news unless you know the bad news. And the bad news is we're all sinners, and we deserve our sins will lead to eternal destruction. [00:31:08] Speaker B: Worse news? Yeah. [00:31:10] Speaker C: Well, yeah, that. Yeah. But the good news is eternal life. The joy of forgiveness of sin. But the too good to be true good news is, according to Jesus, God is eternal life. That we can now have a relationship. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Mm. [00:31:36] Speaker B: And I don't have to earn it. [00:31:39] Speaker C: A God that is everywhere. A God that loves us so much that he was willing, he departed. He gave up his prized possession. And if that doesn't excite someone, I. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Don'T know what does. I agree. I agree. [00:31:57] Speaker A: You talked about relationship. There was a thought that came to me Sunday. I think it was right during the invitation prayer, because I remember it was one of those things, like, as soon as I open my eyes, I'd grab my notebook out and drop this note down. It didn't necessarily have anything to do with your sermon, I don't think, but ever how you were summarizing it brought this, you know, in your. In your prayer for the invitation. I jotted this note down. There was Saturday night. My best friend called me up kind of last minute and said, wanted to meet up with me and had somebody wanted me to meet that you could tell from. You know, I didn't know a whole lot about this person, but he had obviously had some stories and told them some things about me as we're sitting down, and he's like, tell them about the time this. Tell them about that story. And you can just tell there's some stories there. And I just jotted down the note. There's a difference in knowing about God and knowing God, and that's a big, big part of it. And I thought about that as an example of that. Prior to Saturday night, that person knew about me. They'd heard some stories, and they might kind of paint a picture of what I was like, what my personality was like, whatever. But by Sunday morning, that person had met me and we'd spent a few hours together, and they could see exactly who I was. [00:32:59] Speaker B: He now knows you better. [00:33:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So there's a huge difference. You can play that analogy out. We've all met somebody that you've heard about or heard a lot about, or they've heard a lot about you or whatever. But then getting to know somebody, sometimes you Find out that what you've been told about them is not necessarily how they come across. And sometimes it validates. Yeah, that's exactly what they're like. But I thought about that and the difference in knowing about God and knowing God. It's easy to know about God and to know what he's about and to hear. But, you know, depending on who you've been talking to about God, what you found out, once you really do get to know God, you might find out that the person that was telling you about what, maybe they were a little off. [00:33:37] Speaker B: The ideas you had or the picture you had is totally not be a little off. [00:33:40] Speaker A: And then at the same time, a lot of times it's. And I've experienced both. There have been some things that as I've gotten to know the Lord better, it's like, that's not how I was really. Maybe the way I was told by some people it was. And in other ways, I've been like, oh, wow, that's exactly what I've been. I've heard, you know, but you don't get to. You can't read your. Hang on, let me. You. I want to say you can't read your way through that. You can if it's the Bible. Right. But it's not like a textbook where you can just read a biography about somebody and now you know them. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Right. [00:34:10] Speaker A: You've got to really spend the time to. You have to meet that person to really get to know them. Well, the way you do get to know the Lord is reading His Word. So that's, you know, a different application. But through prayer, through being around other believers, through the Holy Spirit and seeing. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Him work and knowing that's what he's like, confirmed by the Scriptures and everything else. [00:34:30] Speaker A: And you can even see it. And when you hear people's testimonies, you can hear them say something and you'll say, yep, that sounds like something he would do. [00:34:38] Speaker B: I recognize that, you know, that's when. That's the beauty of having fellow believers around you. [00:34:43] Speaker A: That's right. [00:34:44] Speaker B: Is they can tell you of a time that God did this. Or, man, I wasn't sure what we were going to do. But yeah, God did that. [00:34:50] Speaker A: But that's. I think that is where. And you talk about this so much on Sundays, and I don't think you can beat this drum enough that there's a difference in showing up to church every Sunday and thinking you're a Christian, you know, intellectually or whatever, as opposed to having that living relationship with him and that active Relationship with him, there's a difference night and day. And it can be a little hard to understand what exactly that means, but once you have it, you know it. I think that's the, the way I would summarize it, maybe. But if you just know about him and you don't know him, you're missing so much. And when you talk about eternal life, I jotted down when you said that, I mean, I try to remind myself that eternal life has already started for us. That's something you told me a long time ago that, you know, I'm not waiting to die to get my eternal life. I got my eternal life years ago. [00:35:38] Speaker B: You know, abundant life is now. [00:35:39] Speaker A: That's right. [00:35:40] Speaker C: It's forever. That's a long time. [00:35:42] Speaker A: And that's what the abundant and eternal life is to me is that relationship. That Saturday afternoon, Saturday afternoon, Saturday or something. I think it was Saturday. Went for that wall. But anyway, that was just such a good time. I didn't have anywhere to go and I didn't have a plan. I just got to the park and I had a bunch of trails I hadn't been on before. I didn't know where they went. I was like, we're just going to explore and just see what's out there. And I've finally found a good park that has some nature trails and stuff. I can get away from stuff. But it's just so good to be able to get away and just have some one on one time and really, really just talk to the Lord and listen for him. And I can't remember a time that I've felt so much different between the beginning and the end of a walk as I was that time. And I was like, man, I got to do that more often. But that's the. In the day to day and getting busy, it's easy to lose that. But boy, when you have it, that is the eternal life. It's that peace. [00:36:37] Speaker C: Well, I know what you talk about when you said that. I just was thinking about something, you know, getting away from the urban area, the crowds. I remember we had a campground and we had gravel as the roads and if you ever walked on gravel, you can hear it. But during the day, and we probably lived about, I guess maybe about from our house to the store was maybe three football fields and I would walk on that gravel. But during the day you'd have so many campers coming in, it was a campground, had so many campers coming in and out. That's all you hear. Yeah, but in the early mornings you can Hear that gravel as you walk on it, but you can't hear it because all the other distractions that you have. So, I mean, I'm just agreeing with you. That's a good point. That you need to get away from. You need to spend a long time from God where you can hear his voice. And it's hard to compete. It's hard for God and the world to compete. Usually the world ends up getting you hear that more. So. But you know, so I would say quality alone time is probably one of the best times that you can. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Grow and know the Lord in a lot of ways. Do you agree with that? [00:38:14] Speaker B: Wholeheartedly agree. It's those. Well, you. You kind of alluded to it earlier when you didn't know what to do. It's those moments where we trust on him totally and there's nothing else. And those moments when we're alone and combine those two and man, that's when you really hear from the Lord that, no, I'm here seeking you. And it's not just for questions and answers. It's not just for answers. It's pursuing Him. And that's where Paul says to know you in the fellowship of your suffering and the power of your resurrections. He wanted to make sure, today I want to know him. And I'm going to use everything I can just to know him better than I did yesterday. Those are those moments. [00:38:58] Speaker A: In some ways it's kind of like, go ahead. [00:39:01] Speaker C: I was just surprised you were listening to me. [00:39:02] Speaker B: No, I'm listening. And then in that same batch, as he goes on a little bit later and he says, forgetting those things that are behind, I press on. [00:39:10] Speaker C: I gotta watch what I say. [00:39:11] Speaker B: You better. No, I listen. [00:39:14] Speaker A: We've probably used this analogy before, but it's kinda like when you're. You're riding in your car and if it's late at night and turn a light on in the car, it gets where you can't see what's outside the car. It's kind of like we're riding around in the world as our car, so to speak. And the more we let the world shine its light, the more it blinds us from what's from his light outside. Right? And then the more we can turn that stuff off, the more we can see his light outside. And it really, really is hard. And we live in a pretty metro area here. I mean, we're not downtown Charlotte or Raleigh here, but we are pretty. There's a lot of lights around here, a lot of people, a lot of buzz, a lot of Stuff. It's hard to find time to get away. Closest I can get without driving somewhere is set out on my balcony late at night. And you ain't gonna see many stars even. And it's not that quiet. But just being able to turn, whatever that means to you. This is very metaphorical. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Right. [00:40:04] Speaker A: But whatever it means for you to turn the world off once in a while, you gotta turn the world off to really be able to see him and to see his lot. [00:40:11] Speaker B: Sometimes it's kind of like unplugging. You gotta unplug. Yeah. And that can mean different things from various things. [00:40:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but like I said, it doesn't mean you gotta go on a nature walk all the time. I think it does help. [00:40:22] Speaker B: No, no, it does. [00:40:25] Speaker C: And I do miss those days. Of course, you know, when you're used to it, you don't really think about all you think about. When you graduate, I'm gonna get off this island. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then as you get older. Man, I wish I was back there now. But you know, used to when before you had everybody moving to the coast and the light so that you're talking about, you could just look up at the stars and it's bright. It's like being on the ocean. No light, no interference. [00:40:56] Speaker B: Billions. [00:40:56] Speaker C: The lights, the star, the sky is so bright. But now where I live, you can't hardly. I see a light, but it sure ain't no stars. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:07] Speaker C: Yeah. So I do miss that. [00:41:10] Speaker A: That was one of the coolest things about last summer, living at mom and Dad's, is that it was just so quiet up there. [00:41:14] Speaker C: Do they live in a suburb or on the way outside? [00:41:17] Speaker A: Very country. Yeah, very country. [00:41:19] Speaker C: See, I miss that kind of stuff. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And I told him we came back down here, like I really wanted to spend more time up there. And I've wanted to, I've meant to and I've tried to, but with the kids schedule and soccer practice and this and that, it's just so hard to get up there. And right now Christian's got a soccer schedule here. Every Single game is 12 o' clock or 2 o' clock Saturday. Could not split the weekend any more in half than that. [00:41:39] Speaker C: Is it on Sundays? Nothing's on Sundays. [00:41:42] Speaker A: Church, I mean. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Well, that's a good thing. I mean, they have soccer on Sunday. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. We don't have anything on Sundays. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Wrecking. Yeah. [00:41:50] Speaker A: But see, if it was for me, it's. We could go Friday afternoon after school. We'd have to leave it Saturday morning at 8 o' clock or 9 o' clock come back. But I really missed that just because. Just going up there for a couple of days. And I told dad the other day, I'm gonna get back up there soon and just spend a weekend. Even if the kids can't go and just hang out because it's just so much quieter. I can sit on their porch for hours and just sit there and I don't have to think about a whole lot, but just sitting there in the quiet time. I'll get more productive thoughts done in an hour up there of quiet time than I will in a week down here, you know. But to some extent, whatever that means to you, whether it's, you know, I've kind of learned for me that's, you know, sitting outside and getting outside where it's quiet. But whatever it is, if it's riding in the car, it's whatever. But you gotta. You gotta know what that means to you to turn the world off and listen to God and have that. That time. [00:42:42] Speaker C: Well, when I get to the beach by myself, I do not take the interstates. I always go the back roads. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:50] Speaker C: I mean, it's longer on 421 anywhere. I mean, I've got my GPS up, but I. I don't get on i40 because it's too much traffic. I like going through the. Drive through counties. [00:43:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:02] Speaker C: And seeing. Yeah. Tobacco or corn or whatever. Yeah. [00:43:07] Speaker B: Just where there's nothing. [00:43:08] Speaker C: Where there's nothing. And Pender county, where there's nothing. [00:43:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Literally. [00:43:15] Speaker C: But that's just. And I guess that's just how I grew up in that type of environment where there was nothing there. [00:43:24] Speaker B: You know? And what I find most difficult, though, is for somebody that is always going, going, going hard charging. That's the hard part. Cause that right there, what you just mentioned, man, I'd be going crazy. Come on, let's get. [00:43:39] Speaker A: We. [00:43:39] Speaker B: We got. We got a task. The task is to get from our house to the beach. Let's do it as fast as we can, the most efficient way. Let's unpack, and then we can start our vacation. Oh, by the way, tomorrow when we're on vacation, we're gonna go play golf, and then we're gonna go to the aquarium. Oh. And then we're gonna go do this and go to. And so for somebody that is. I don't want to say task driven, but I think that's the best way to discover yourself. It's hard. Very much so. And it's very hard that you got to. You got to force yourself and sometimes that is the hardest thing to say. No, it's not about what I'm going to do today or, hey, this does not have to be done right now. Where, you know, I got my list right here. I've marked off what everything I've done today that I wanted to get done. And some other things got added to it, but I'm going to get to them. Man, you got to make sure you get to a place to where set that aside and just be with the Lord. It doesn't have to be at the beach or the countryside. It can be in your own office where you're turning off the noise and just saying, Lord. And a lot of times it's. When you first wake up in the morning is the best time is to set your mind to say, lord, I got so much going on this morning, but I know where I need to start and I know where I better end up. So, Lord, help me to keep centered on you, not just on the task at hand or getting stuff done or. [00:45:02] Speaker C: Well, that's why you've got too full, isn't it? [00:45:05] Speaker B: Sort of. It is just a nice, quiet, peaceful time. [00:45:09] Speaker C: But you're doing something with them. [00:45:10] Speaker B: Yeah, but my mind's racing. I mean, it is. Oh, man, you have no clue. It's always racing. I try not to, but it does. [00:45:19] Speaker C: On the flip side of it, that's good and bad. [00:45:21] Speaker B: I guess it's a blessing and a curse. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah. On the flip side of what we're talking about, though, there is a. There's also a lot to be said for inviting him into the noise with you to some extent, because, I mean, this is not a place that you would think of as a good, quiet time for the Lord. But when I go to the gym, you know, a lot of times people listen to music or they do whatever. It's kind of boring just walking around a track or running around a track. But I can turn that into prayer time. I can turn that into fellowship with the Lord when I go to. You know, I did this today. I went and hit some golf balls at Sully's this morning. And I just tried to be very mindful of, you know, praying my way through the hour instead of just. Instead of just, you know. [00:45:56] Speaker B: Nothing wrong with that, especially exercise is great for the body. Sometimes it's great for the mind just to put everything aside. But, man, that's a great time to be centered, too, to center on the Lord. [00:46:08] Speaker A: I think the verse that maybe since Saturday, I mean, that walk on Saturday might be the first time That I can recall truly praying without ceasing for some period of time, for an extended period of time. Because I didn't pray with. Sometimes prayers are like a checklist. I've got all these things I need to pray 30 minutes. How quick can I get through this list so I can go to bed, Right? But the other day, it was like I didn't have. It occurred to me on the walk that if I truly, truly wanted to pray for everything that I thought mattered to the Lord, I'd never run out of things. There's no shortage of things that you can pray for, if for nothing else. Every time I'd check a few off, I'd pass four or five more people on the trail and I'd have somebody else to pray for. There was just always something else. And it started. I'll never run out of things to pray for. So that was maybe the best part of that whole hour and a half or two hours. I just prayed without ceasing for all that time. And it's one of those things that I'm trying to be more and more mindful of, that it goes back to the very beginning of the other 167, when I said, the more I spend time with the Lord at 10 o' clock on a Tuesday or 5 o' clock on a Friday or whatever, instead of just 11 o' clock on Sunday, the better that relationship is. And sometimes, especially as you get more involved in church, you can be like, well, I went to Wednesday night game night, and I did the podcast on Tuesday, and I was on the Monday night zoom study. And I was on this. I was on that. That's enough for now. I need some meat. [00:47:34] Speaker B: I've been religious long enough. [00:47:35] Speaker A: That's right. I've been religious long enough this week. But the bad thing about it is that you hear from the Lord in those times. But that's not quiet time, that's busy times. You know, it's a totally different. Even for me. Sometimes I'll go over to the clubhouse at the apartments there and just go 10 o' clock at night, just hit golf balls into a screen. I don't have a clue where they're going, but I'll just sit here and talk to the Lord while I'm doing it. That's some great time. There's all kinds of good, quiet ways. [00:48:00] Speaker B: That's the thing. The Lord listens to us. We can be doing a lot of stuff. Driving, working. He listens. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah, well, speaking of driving, I probably need to start it. Go get the kids so, short episode this week, but appreciate the time as always. Enjoy it. You got anything to close us with? You didn't get very far into John this week. [00:48:23] Speaker B: But it was deep. [00:48:24] Speaker A: I like it. 45 minutes per verse. You're going to take a while. [00:48:30] Speaker B: We're going to be in Philippians right now. I'm going to give you another homework assignment. All right, So I love, and this is part of my flashpoints, was this week. There are some verses in the Bible. When you find them, they are powerhouses. They're short, they're easy to remember. It is one that we're familiar with, but I think oftentimes we kind of forget or we miss exactly what's going on here. So Philippians 1:21, Paul is in jail and he's going back and forth between, oh, they may. They may execute me or I may be set free. And I love what he says. Now, this is probably the ultimate of what freedom is. You can't kill me, because if you do, I win. If you keep me alive, I'm going to win there, too. And he says this for to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Now, oftentimes we focus on the backside of that verse, die is gain. And I say it all the time at a funeral. I'll tell somebody I'm sorry for your loss, but I make no apology for their gain because I know where they are. But we miss that front part. And there are so many verses I believe we gloss over or we just kind of read through it. No, for me to live as Christ. Okay, that's cool. No, we need to pause right there and we need to say, what does that mean? What does it mean for me to live is Christ? What does it mean to live is Christ? So that's your homework assignment. I'm going to make it a little bit more difficult this time. Keep your answers. There's going to be some other references. Keep your answers to what Paul says, and there's all kinds of things he says that he does and what he's driven by and what is his. What does it mean to live as Christ? So you're going to be able to see it in Corinthians, you're going to be able to see it in Galatians and Ephesians and all, especially Corinthians. He does a lot of it because that's a lot of. Not necessarily an autobiographical, but it does include a lot of stuff that he writes about himself. So I would encourage you, take a look at that, and we'll Come back and we'll start with, what does it mean? To live is Christ. We know to die is gain. That's awesome. Live is Christ. Because I believe this is central to every Christian's life. This is the other 167. This is all 168. To live is Christ. [00:50:45] Speaker C: How long does it have to be? [00:50:47] Speaker B: I prefer two pages, double spaced. No, a couple things. Couple things. [00:50:57] Speaker C: What does it mean to live in Christ? [00:50:59] Speaker B: Live is Christ. [00:51:00] Speaker C: Yep. To live is Christ. [00:51:01] Speaker A: Or live, he says, is to live is Christ. [00:51:04] Speaker C: That's not what my version. What one do you have? [00:51:06] Speaker B: Philippians 1:21. What does yours say? [00:51:08] Speaker C: Mine says to live. Let me see. To me, living means living for Christ and dying is even better. [00:51:19] Speaker B: So that be all right. So what does living for Christ mean? [00:51:22] Speaker C: I can dance, but he is Christ. That was throwing me off. [00:51:29] Speaker B: Okay, well, now you're thrown on and so come back next week. Let's talk. Let's discuss that. [00:51:37] Speaker C: I'm excited. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Good. [00:51:38] Speaker C: I love her. [00:51:40] Speaker B: There you go. Well, it's always from the pastor to jump in and. And go to work on it. Now, don't read the article in flashpoints then if you're going to do it on your own, because I answered it for the folks. [00:51:50] Speaker C: Oh, well, then I need to do it before. [00:51:53] Speaker B: Or you can just skip over, skip over, skip over my article. [00:51:58] Speaker C: I'll check my answer. [00:51:58] Speaker B: There you go. All right. [00:51:59] Speaker C: Do the question, check my answer, open book test. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Or just don't read the flashpoint article at the beginning, then go and check it. Okay. Because I gave. I think I gave four. Now, I've already thought of five. [00:52:10] Speaker C: Five. [00:52:11] Speaker B: You do four or five. [00:52:13] Speaker A: All right. All right. See y'. All. Thank you. [00:52:17] Speaker C: Do they all start with the P? [00:52:24] Speaker A: You know, not to derail 20 minutes like we did last week, but speaking of Andy Griffith, I saw the Andy Griffith show yesterday where I didn't catch the whole thing, so I don't know the whole gist of it. They had some band. It's when they did the marching band, and they have a good band that kind of. He subbed them out at the last minute to play for the mayor. And then they had to go back in the alley and switch them back out. And he was telling them, like Otis, no, not Floyd the Barber was saying, but I want to play. I'm good. He said, don't play. You can carry if they don't blow any notes on it. [00:52:53] Speaker B: And then I always love the one where Barney has to sing on the microphone. [00:52:59] Speaker C: When he's looking for somebody who where's that place? I'll find it. Now. [00:53:06] Speaker B: That was Sergeant Carter. Did that too. No, my life was the Beverly Hill Village. I remember him more than anything else. And that was how I live that. Oh, boy. Look at that. Seen that pond? [00:53:20] Speaker A: I'll get to a point that's related in just one second. [00:53:24] Speaker C: Oh, I mean, you can keep on going. [00:53:26] Speaker A: I want to get his take on this. [00:53:28] Speaker C: Oh, okay. You want him to hear him say it? [00:53:32] Speaker A: Well, I want to hear what his. [00:53:34] Speaker C: You want him to hear you say it? I meant. [00:53:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:36] Speaker C: Okay. [00:53:36] Speaker A: That way he's not coming in halfway through our like. What are y' all talking about? [00:53:40] Speaker B: I get it. Yeah. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Sometimes I didn't look at it that way. [00:53:44] Speaker C: I was looking. You can just keep on talking to you, but he needs to hear what you're saying. [00:53:49] Speaker A: Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

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