Christ is the Standard

[00:00:02] Speaker A: I think one of the things that we can slip into real quick on that is looking at other people and saying, I can still see pride in this person. They must not be a Christian, but God might be working on a different area of them and he'll get to the pride later. Just like you worked with me on pride first and we'll get to the other stuff later. [00:00:20] Speaker B: But we do. We always compare ourselves. Well, I'm not as bad as that guy. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:25] Speaker C: Or go the other way of. I'm just so much better than that person. Yeah, I see that oftentimes that, you know, we. We can. We can have a lot of pride in our lives. Not just seeing just I'm better than that person. [00:00:38] Speaker A: Why can't they be as humble as I am? [00:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, I had my. You still going to New York, New York? I've seen. [00:00:53] Speaker C: No, no, I got canceled. Way too expensive. I tell you what, you getting to Ithaca, New York, man, I mean, there's. [00:01:02] Speaker B: A lot of side roads in there. [00:01:04] Speaker C: Well, I could drive it, but if we're going to drive it up for three days, I'm not driving it. So we'd fly it and then you. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Got a lot of change of flights. [00:01:13] Speaker C: Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, I can fly directly from Raleigh, I believe, to Buffalo or to Syracuse. Then you got to drive in to Ithaca. [00:01:23] Speaker B: So does it have it interstate? [00:01:26] Speaker C: Yeah. There's roads to go between. But now the thing of it is is flying out of Ithaca, there is not much. I don't know why he always picks universities that have. How far rinky d airports. Madison's was what. [00:01:40] Speaker B: How far is it from the city? [00:01:42] Speaker C: From New York City, about three and a half. Three and a half. Four hours upstate. Beautiful area, but three and a half. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:01:48] Speaker C: In fact, sometimes he has to go to the city because they've got some partnerships with some of the hospitals and. But they've got a bus that runs between. So he just rides the bus, I guess. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Every city's got a bus to New York. I mean, especially Philadelphia from D.C. yeah. [00:02:05] Speaker C: And it may even be like one of the schools buses we left yesterday. [00:02:11] Speaker B: It was just getting too rainy, but it was nice weather. There's nobody there. I mean, there's nobody. That's a good thing. When there's a hurricane out on the coast, people don't know the geography and it's usually the beach is very, very few people come. [00:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Mostly on if it's a far drive. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Like Hatteras island, you would have nobody if there's a hurricane I guess because people don't know the geography where it's at because they're always saying 650 miles south of Hatteras Island. That's, you know, that's just a point. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:44] Speaker B: And it's not even probably going that way but they think it's going to be there in a day. That would be a week. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Yeah. So 650 miles they don't go. But those things don't travel usually about 30 miles an hour. [00:02:55] Speaker C: They're not fast. A long way to go. [00:02:57] Speaker B: They're having a travel against the speed of the Earth too as the earth turns. That's why your back winds are so much faster than your front winds. Your front winds are hitting the rotation of the earth, the back winds are with it. And so it's usually 20 miles, 10 to 20 miles. [00:03:19] Speaker C: Not just wind. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Do what? [00:03:21] Speaker C: It's not just wind. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean it's you. When they say 100 mile hour wind it is 100 miles but it's really 80 in the front because the rotation of the earth is slowing it down. [00:03:34] Speaker A: The earth rotates faster than 20 miles an hour. [00:03:37] Speaker B: Well whatever it is, 10 miles an hour. I mean really. [00:03:40] Speaker C: I didn't know that. [00:03:40] Speaker B: That's why your back winds are always the most dangerous. [00:03:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Did you know that a hurricane can't cross the equator? [00:03:47] Speaker C: Is that right? [00:03:49] Speaker A: The rotation that at the. They're opposite literally at the equator. I guess there is no rotation of the air or something because it's at a 90 degree angle to the right axis. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:02] Speaker A: So there can't they. They lose their rotation as they get close. Yeah. If you look at like the storm pass like you. I don't think it's impossible for a hurricane to get past the equator because at the equator rotation stops. [00:04:15] Speaker C: Well that's true because I mean you look at where all our hurricanes usually develop are right there off the like the western coast of Africa. But that's not at the equator. How about that? [00:04:26] Speaker A: I think they can form north. [00:04:27] Speaker C: Is that why they call them. But that's not why they call them typhoons and hurricanes though. Right. [00:04:31] Speaker B: That's just a different name and different oceans. I mean different languages. Typhoon differentation. [00:04:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:38] Speaker C: Like the Pacific Ocean has typhoons. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:40] Speaker C: But no, but does California ever get hit by earthquakes? [00:04:43] Speaker B: I mean I've seen one. [00:04:44] Speaker C: Hurricanes. [00:04:45] Speaker B: I've seen one when it turns hurricane. Yeah. I mean remember seeing it on the map? [00:04:50] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:50] Speaker B: It turned somewhere. It was probably a small one. It probably turned somewhere south of California, went into Southern California. [00:04:59] Speaker C: Okay. But I get Earthquakes. I mean, every place got its own. [00:05:03] Speaker B: We get earthquakes too. [00:05:04] Speaker C: Yeah, little minor ones. You remember that one, the big one back in. I think it was like 2013 that the mountains. I'm joking. It knocked over a lawn chair. [00:05:16] Speaker A: Yeah, well, people around here was still. [00:05:19] Speaker C: We real. We will rebuild. Yeah. No, actually, you know what, it's interesting. The Lord had me at the. One of the tallest buildings in Raleigh. I went to go visit somebody that is the maintenance guy for that. He called me and said, man, I want to show you something. We went up at the very tip top and showing me the view, and that's when it hit. You could feel it a little. I was like, whoa. And. But I mean, it won't. I don't even think it even hardly registered, but that's okay. Yeah, I digress. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Well, it's like going up a hill. You can be going 80 miles, but you're not really going up 80 miles. You're going 60 to get up the hill. I mean, it slows down, right? But when you're going downhill, you can be driving the same speed, but you get home quicker. You know, like the mountains. You get there, you get to the mountains, you leave the mountains, you get home quicker than you do going to the mountains. [00:06:14] Speaker A: Really? [00:06:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, because of the elevation. Oh, Google it. [00:06:20] Speaker A: It's not technically true. You go given the same amount of gas expenditure, you would. [00:06:28] Speaker C: But you always be the same. [00:06:30] Speaker A: The time would be the same. You're going to have to use more gas to go the same. [00:06:33] Speaker C: Well, I got less. I got more downhill. I don't know, man. Y'. All. Y' all got me all kind of torn up. [00:06:39] Speaker A: If you're going down, I'm still thinking. [00:06:41] Speaker C: About the ocean and the. And the waves and the. And the wind. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Well. [00:06:46] Speaker C: Well, what if I'm going from China to California? [00:06:49] Speaker B: Well, I'll tell you about a hurricane. The Earth is moving this way, okay? Your winds are always circling this way, okay? So as you're coming through here, that wind is hitting that rotation, so it slows it down. But when this hurricane gets on this side of the rotation Earth, these winds are going with the Earth. [00:07:13] Speaker A: I wish so bad. I had this diagram on video. [00:07:15] Speaker C: Pacific. [00:07:16] Speaker B: No, on the right side. No, on the left. [00:07:19] Speaker C: Hold it up. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Meteorologist Kenny over here. [00:07:24] Speaker B: No, it's just. [00:07:24] Speaker C: It's just, you know, I'm just fascinated by this. I really am. I'm just kind of. So if I'm sailing from China to California, I go faster? [00:07:35] Speaker B: No, I'm not saying. I'm just talking about A hurricane. [00:07:38] Speaker C: Oh, I thought you were talking about boats and stuff. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Just talking about. [00:07:41] Speaker A: He switched. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I said. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Let's go back from mountains to hurricanes. We'll get back to the mountain thing probably halfway through the show. [00:07:49] Speaker C: I thought you were also talking about in a boat. We started out as a boat thing. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Right. I don't remember that. [00:07:55] Speaker A: But going up. [00:07:56] Speaker C: Uphill, you go, yeah, he's all about uphill. But I thought. I thought we started with a boat story or. I know what it was. It was going to New York. [00:08:06] Speaker B: That's not no boat. That's driving. [00:08:09] Speaker C: But then there wasn't it. Harris. 625 to somewhere else. And that's when it started. [00:08:14] Speaker A: I think he was talking about the hurricane was 650 miles south of. [00:08:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that. [00:08:17] Speaker C: Oh, so y' all were on. I thought you were talking about taking a boat from Hatteras, 625 miles away. [00:08:22] Speaker B: I'm just saying people don't know the geography then. That's why I go to the beach. It can be sunny. A hurricane out there. Nice weather. Nobody there. Usually Labor Day. [00:08:34] Speaker C: Just choppy. [00:08:35] Speaker B: No, it's glassy. [00:08:38] Speaker C: Yeah, Well, I had been in where it was nothing but glass. [00:08:41] Speaker B: When I'm saying. Well, my point was, is people don't really know their geography. When the Weather channel says at 650. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Miles southeast of Hatteras, they think it'll be here tomorrow. [00:08:53] Speaker B: And it's coming at hat. Yeah, it has. You know, they haven't. The path hadn't been determined yet. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Or they haven't predicted path yet. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah, well, they've been known to miss the path, too, so. [00:09:05] Speaker B: Well, they're getting pretty good in three days. Three days out. They're pretty good at that. [00:09:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:11] Speaker B: It's a. Steering currents. Yep. The upper airs. Yeah, that. Those. [00:09:16] Speaker A: Well, y' all get started. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:18] Speaker A: Welcome to the other 167. Garrett, Kenny, Ben, are you ready now? [00:09:22] Speaker B: We're back. We're back in Fuqua. [00:09:24] Speaker C: I'm away from hurricanes and boats and trains. Planes. Trains and automobiles. [00:09:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Your sandwich is in his car. [00:09:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:33] Speaker C: He gave me grief. Where's mine? I said, well, it's in the car. [00:09:36] Speaker B: I was getting ready to go get it. So he had to back off on that. [00:09:39] Speaker C: I've just. [00:09:39] Speaker A: I've decided I've had to go extreme on my diet because what I was doing was not working. So I have been. You talk about intermittent fasting. I'm only doing one meal a day. [00:09:47] Speaker B: I'm. [00:09:47] Speaker A: I'm sticking myself. I'm Being very. Because I can't trust. I can't be trusted to keep the calorie count low unless I limit the. [00:09:53] Speaker C: The. I've just. I've just upped the water. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Well, that was a picture that I sent about when I was trying to climb up. That was the top of the lighthouse. [00:10:01] Speaker A: I couldn't. We got some good pictures. [00:10:02] Speaker B: I couldn't get through the hole. I mean, I had to turn sideways. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Trying to climb out of. [00:10:07] Speaker B: But I got stuck there. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Sea monster's mouth, man. [00:10:10] Speaker C: You got to put them online. Yeah, Classic. [00:10:12] Speaker B: Maybe I. Cover photo. [00:10:13] Speaker A: That was awesome. Yeah, there was some good stuff on there. [00:10:15] Speaker C: Great. [00:10:16] Speaker B: Let me see if I can get this. No, y' all did. Probably didn't get this. I'm trying to find my photos. [00:10:22] Speaker C: Well, while he's doing that, I was. I'm in a competition with my daughter. She's. She is hyper competitive, and I'm not sure where she gets that from, but she's hyper competitive. And she was showing me the other day that her Chick Fil A points. She had more Chick Fil A points than me. And I disagreed, and we had a. We had a point off. And I beat her by. I mean, it won't even close. She doesn't know. You know, she doesn't know what I got going on. But sometimes, like, for the youth, I might buy some nuggets or I might buy some strips. Put that on there. And so I'm way ahead of her, but I'm not going to let her catch up either. I'm not even that big of a fan of. Well, I do like it. It's good. Chicken. [00:11:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:04] Speaker C: That pretzel sandwich they got. Pretzel bun sandwich. Oh, it's a. I think it's called a classic club. It's got the pretzel bread. It's nice now. It's nice. I would recommend it. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I've not had that one yet. Usually see Chick Fil A, it's hard for me to deviate too much from the staples. [00:11:22] Speaker C: I'll get sandwich. [00:11:23] Speaker A: The regular sandwich or a spicy. Or a spicy sandwich. Yeah, that's pretty much it. [00:11:27] Speaker C: But now we'll brag about their Cobb salad, too. It's good. [00:11:30] Speaker A: So breakfast, I might mix it up a little bit. Yeah, I'll do their egg white grills. Will get it for breakfast. [00:11:36] Speaker C: And those little meanings are nice. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Those meanings are real good. [00:11:39] Speaker B: That's pretty. [00:11:40] Speaker C: So let's see it now. [00:11:40] Speaker B: Press that down. I'm trying to get out. [00:11:53] Speaker A: That's what I was trying Struggling a little bit there. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So. And it's not much room when you get up there. Yeah. But anyway. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you left us on a cliffhanger last week with Christian karma. I'm curious to talk about that a little bit. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:12:09] Speaker A: I imagine by book that there are a lot. I bet there's a lot in proverbs that would speak to Christian karma. [00:12:18] Speaker C: Plenty in proverbs. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Maybe even a little bit in Ecclesiastes. I would think I could see that. I don't know. [00:12:24] Speaker C: Proverbs, especially proverbs is the one that I really, when I began reading it was, you know, what I know, you know, don't want to apply the same word. [00:12:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:34] Speaker C: Because karma carries with it so much in the Hindu slash, you know, Indian religions that I just, I'd rather just not call it karma as much as it is the principle of reaping and sowing. And that is you reap what you sow. And I think that is the whole principle of, you know, not necessarily Christian karma, of, okay, I'm mean to you or I, you know, treat you a certain way. Now I'm going to get treated that way. No, it's just that our actions carry consequences and there is a principle that is reaping and sowing. And so it is, I think Galatians 6 goes into that. Be not deceived, God is not mocked, you reap what you sow. Proverbs talks about, you know, these actions carry consequences. So if I make foolish decisions, don't be surprised if you don't have to pay a price for a while. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and it's kind of like we've talked about before, you bad consequences are oftentimes going to follow sinful activities or unwise decisions. Right, right. And that's not necessarily because God is punishing you for committing the sin. Sometimes he is, but a lot of times it's because he told you not to because he knew that the consequence would be. [00:13:56] Speaker C: But it, sometimes it's just a natural result of. Right. You know, if I eat there every single day. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:04] Speaker C: Okay, that's, that's. I know what's going to happen. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Yeah. If I go to bed every night, if I got to get up at 6 o' clock in the morning, I go to bed at 2 o' clock in the morning. Me being exhausted at 6am is a punishment for going to bed late so much as it is the consequence of not getting enough bad decision. [00:14:20] Speaker C: So. So a lot of times these consequences and not ready to call them karma, but it is you read what you sow. [00:14:27] Speaker A: So to distinguish between the two, I was just sitting here thinking, I mean, God is not to be mocked or God is not mocked. When you think about karma, it seems to kind of contradict grace on. In one way, but at the same time, could the difference be a repentant heart versus an unrepentant heart? Because if you are unrepentant and you continue to live in rebellion against God and just. Can you stay at it? Stay at it and continue to mock and ignore his. His power. [00:14:57] Speaker C: Right. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Then you call it karma if you want to. But I mean he. There is a bad consequence to that, ultimately an eternal consequence to it. And in the earthly sense too, they're going to be consequences to it where if you do turn away, I don't know if you will say it quite this simply, but you might get your karma if you stay unrepentant. But if you repent it, I don't think there's as much of whatever you want to call it because he does give you grace. But that being said, there are still. [00:15:26] Speaker C: Yeah, there's still going to be consequences. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Going to be consequences. If you kill. Kill somebody and you're convicted, that's gonna. You're gonna pay the price for that one. [00:15:33] Speaker C: And, and I think ultimately even if you're not convicted, you're gonna pay. You're gonna answer to someone. [00:15:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:39] Speaker C: Or some. Something. So. So I don't know. I just have always. I know karma is kind of considered of, you know. Oh, we don't want to say that. At the same time, I've always struggled with. Well, how do you define that as far as what the scriptures teach? Because yeah, I'm not going into saying it's called karma, but there is a principle that's there that's similar. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:02] Speaker C: Then I don't know that I don't like said where it gets it where karma gets its origins or where it's derived from. But ours comes from the justice of God and the holiness of God and the standard of righteousness that he has. That all right. If you go against this standard, it's going to come back. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the justice of God is what required Jesus to come. Somebody had to to. He couldn't just ignore the sin. He couldn't just turn a blind eye to it because that goes against his righteousness. So he had to send Jesus to, to, I hate to say level the scales, but that's kind of. That's the only way even out the ledger. [00:16:38] Speaker B: Right. [00:16:38] Speaker A: That's one of the things I always struggle with, Kenny, with accounting, I could never figure out the debits and credits and how to even out the ledger and all that kind of stuff. [00:16:45] Speaker C: Doors and credits being framed, doors and curtains, debits, credits. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:51] Speaker A: So I think counting three times can help you. [00:16:55] Speaker C: Everything's a deduction until you get audit. [00:17:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:01] Speaker C: Accountant one. [00:17:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I enjoyed that conversation with Brandon the other night. Shout out, man, that was. Everything is introduction until you get. Till you get on. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:09] Speaker C: I still think he needs to get the bass boat. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:15] Speaker C: So. So it is one of. And I think you also see, I think from time to time, you may even see a. A touch of talking about in the Psalms. I know. I believe it's Psalm 74. You see David lamenting, or it may not even be David who wrote that. But you see, you see someone crying out, and it may not be 74. Quote me on that. But you see throughout the Psalms, you see, why do the wicked prosper? Why is it that they seem to always get ahead and then. But what happens at the end of every last one of them is, no, God's going to take care of that. Yeah. And so there is kind of a wickedness does not prosper, that kind of thing. And so just. And maybe, maybe what we should think of it as is, you know, I think karma is good for good, bad for bad. But maybe what I'm getting at is more of bad for bad, because it's by grace anyway that I'm going to get anything good. But, but, but my actions will carry consequences. Now, sometimes God, you know, sometimes miraculously or whatever, may not, but you're still going to be the consequences of a guilty conscience, consequences of this. So I. I don't know. I just threw it out there for. For us to discuss. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Well, the consequences for others, too. I mean, a lot of times our. Our bad is going to have a negative impact on others. And God forgives us. They may not. And even if they do, there may. [00:18:40] Speaker C: Be something that may hurt them to the point of they can't get passed off. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:18:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So your grace doesn't always resolve the consequences. I think that's one of the things that can be a little tough to deal with sometimes, once you do repent, is that you kind of think there's a. There's a small part of you that kind of feels like, why am I still having to deal with the consequences of this? If God forgives, you got to remind yourself that those consequences still. Still linger. [00:19:06] Speaker C: We live in a real world. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Yeah. That's right. [00:19:08] Speaker C: It's the ripple effect. You throw up a pebble in the. In the pond, it just keeps moving out. And that's kind of what. And that's. That's something to consider whenever we're making decisions is, man, I think this is a big deal. But, man, by the time that thing starts to impact and it can. [00:19:25] Speaker A: One thing, I like this too. When you have. There are situations and there are times that God can take the consequences away. He's done that plenty of times in my life where things could have been a whole lot worse than they really were. [00:19:38] Speaker C: Indeed. [00:19:38] Speaker A: And that's just. That's grace. But at the same time, as I said before, grace is not distributed evenly. And sometimes when you look at, well, why did this person not suffer the consequences for this? But I did. Why Then. Then you can start to get a little, you know, jealous or envious that somebody else got more grace than you. Because they are. What? [00:19:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Especially. And that's really. I mean, when you look at those psalms I'm talking about, that's. That's really what's going on, man. He is really struggling to. The evil just seemed to get everything then. There doesn't seem to be any repercussions for anything they're doing. [00:20:12] Speaker A: Yeah. The other question we. Kenny kind of teed up last week, I think. Here we go. [00:20:17] Speaker C: Kenny, you got your ass. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Yeah. What is he writing? He's written half a book every year. [00:20:25] Speaker B: I was just writing something I was going to say about the impact of others, but. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Do we need to pause for a minute for you? [00:20:31] Speaker C: We're ready. We're ready now. Yeah. [00:20:33] Speaker B: I'm just saying. [00:20:34] Speaker A: Time's up. You got to turn in. Turn in your answer now. Pencils down. [00:20:40] Speaker B: You see, in the life of Samson. [00:20:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:43] Speaker B: He lost his eyes. He never got those back. You see. And somebody that got. David. [00:20:48] Speaker C: David, when he does the census, that hurt a lot of folks. [00:20:52] Speaker B: What about Moses? Because I had. Not following exactly what God said. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yep. [00:20:58] Speaker B: He didn't enter in the. [00:20:59] Speaker C: Well, that's. That's personal. We're talking about it impacting others. [00:21:03] Speaker B: Well, I think everything we do is going to impact others. [00:21:05] Speaker C: Sure. Around. I mean, think about the rebellion of the children at Kadesh Barnea when they went with the 10 spies instead of the two that cost Jacob, Joshua and Caleb 40 good years of their life that they got to walk around in the desert while knowing that they were obedient and saying, no, we operated in faith and these other clowns didn't. So Now I got 40 years of living out here, I know I would have been. There have been some mornings I'd have woke up and it's hot and we're having to get mana instead of. I'm getting to go out into my own vineyard. I think I would be mad, but I'm thankful that Joshua and Caleb, you never see that. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Well, you think about the person that pulled out in front of me as I was coming here and slowed down. [00:21:51] Speaker C: You don't pull that in. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just saying everything caused me to be late. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:57] Speaker C: Okay. [00:21:58] Speaker B: You know, I'm just. Because they pulled out and they were going 30 miles an hour, about five miles in double lane. [00:22:04] Speaker A: I don't know what we talk about more on this show. Been swimming or people cutting you off. [00:22:09] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying this. It was right at my house. Bang. Yeah. I mean, what are you doing? You know, everybody else is going, yes, 55, 65 here. I'm going 30 with you. And then she finally turned off or he. I don't know. [00:22:23] Speaker C: But they pulled out like they were in a hurry. [00:22:25] Speaker B: No, they pulled right in front of me. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:28] Speaker C: Like they. Like they got somewhere. They got to go fast. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah, well, obviously they. They're just not. Don't. [00:22:33] Speaker C: That's what gives me, boy. They pull out like the britches are on fire. And then they go slow. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Then they done to go speed. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:41] Speaker C: It's like, come on, man, what's wrong with you? [00:22:42] Speaker B: That's. I mean, like, you say everything. I think everything we do. I won't go as far as that, But I think everything. Most of the things we do has consequences on other people. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Well, I would say. I mean, on ourselves. [00:22:56] Speaker B: I was, you know, I was late because of that. [00:22:58] Speaker A: I mean, I would say almost, you know, some of your consideration type thing. I would say that everything you do has a consequence. Some of them are positive. That's one of my pet peeves about the English language is we always take the word consequence as a negative because. [00:23:13] Speaker C: Of the word the way we use. [00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah, but consequence just means something that happens as a result of something else happening at the same time. Consequence of my new one meal a day diet is probably going to be that I'm away less than a few weeks. I mean, there are, we should say, results. Results. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:28] Speaker A: Well, I'm not an English. [00:23:31] Speaker C: That doesn't have the same negative connotation. [00:23:33] Speaker A: But are they. I mean, I'm not an English major, but are. Is consequence and result not basically the same? [00:23:39] Speaker C: And they are. It's just consequences. Sounds. Yeah, we we put consequences as we. [00:23:45] Speaker A: We only think of consequences in punishment. [00:23:47] Speaker B: That's a negative. [00:23:48] Speaker A: But consequence and punishment are not the same thing. Consequence and result are. [00:23:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:53] Speaker A: So everything that we do, good or bad, carries a consequence to it. And if you do enough good things. Yeah. Good things are probably going to end up following you there. Is that karma? No, that's just right. So when God and in the word says doing good, you know, you reap what you sow, that good things are going to happen. If you do good things, it's. It's not even necessarily. I don't want to say it like it's not a reward, but it is kind of. You follow his rule, good things will happen. That's why he made that the rule, because that's. He knew that was going to lead to good consequences or good results. [00:24:25] Speaker C: You're right. Consequences, not negative. [00:24:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Which is a synonym of results. [00:24:32] Speaker C: Well, here we go. It just says a result or effect of an action or condition. Doesn't say negative or positive. So I think it's just. It sounds bad. [00:24:41] Speaker A: It sounds bad. Yeah. [00:24:42] Speaker C: That word con already. [00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:45] Speaker C: I'm on alert when you say the word con. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:49] Speaker C: Other than con. Confidence, I like that one maybe. But conflict, that's a bad one. [00:24:55] Speaker A: See, I think the word con, if I'm not. I'm not an English major and I'm definitely not a Latin American. [00:24:59] Speaker C: But pro and con would be against. I think it's that as soon as you hear that, it's already a negative. [00:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know where that con comes from, though. But I. I think the word con comes. I'm really gonna look like pull home wrong. I think it comes from Latin. That means with. [00:25:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it does. [00:25:14] Speaker A: Right. Because I think that's in Spanish. Like con. It, like, you know, ecp. [00:25:19] Speaker C: Yeah. Is con. Or anytime something that has con in it means with. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Connect. [00:25:25] Speaker C: Connect. Yeah, Connect. Form. Connect. Connect. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Quatro. Qu. Yeah. So consequence just means with the sequence. [00:25:38] Speaker C: Yeah. What is. What is the next step of that. [00:25:41] Speaker A: Of the. [00:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it. [00:25:41] Speaker C: Yeah, that's where you take that today. [00:25:44] Speaker A: We really could probably. Yeah, we can take it today. I don't know what. Yeah, I can take it. We definitely take it. So you brought up last week, can. Can Christians still live in sin? [00:25:57] Speaker C: That was a Kenny question. [00:25:58] Speaker A: That was a Kenny question. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah, last week. [00:26:00] Speaker C: No, that was your question for the answer. [00:26:04] Speaker B: I do the questions. Y' all do the answers. [00:26:07] Speaker A: That's. No, that's my job. I do the questions. [00:26:10] Speaker B: Well, I think I can't they can't live it to their full potential. [00:26:14] Speaker C: Well, that's for sure. But I think first, first we need to just, you know, get the obvious out of the way is will Christians sin? Absolutely. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:23] Speaker B: All the time. [00:26:24] Speaker C: Yep. Even those that have been redeemed, those who have been saved, even those have been saved for 50 plus years, they are still going to fall short and we're still going to have our times that we. Whether it's an attitude, an action. Now, I've always made the argument that Christians, when you're born again and Christ is working in you, you will not be sinless, but you will sin less. And there is a big difference. Sinless means I don't have any sin. Less means I don't do it as much. Now the question is, is that two. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Words, not a second one? Yes. Okay. [00:26:59] Speaker C: That's why I say less. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Sinless is one word. [00:27:01] Speaker C: Yeah, sinless, sinless, sin. [00:27:04] Speaker A: It's the space in between. That's what's important. [00:27:07] Speaker B: How big is the space? [00:27:08] Speaker C: At least double. [00:27:09] Speaker A: We're going to be diagramming. [00:27:11] Speaker C: Yeah, please, let's do it. So, so, but the question is. So I guess the, the way I'd ask is, so how much is sinless or sinless or what would be the magic number? And yes, Christians can be in sin. It should be that their conscience is really bothering them. It should be that they are. Something ain't right. You know something, and you're right. They will not be walking in the fullness of joy. They will not be living the abundant life that Christ has for them. Because if you want to know something that's going to interfere with your relationship, sin is one. I mean, Psalm 66, 18. If I regard iniquity in my heart, Christ will not hear me. That's what I'm praying. Though your sins be as scarlet and they separate you, Christ forgives. Though it makes us white as snow. But still the picture there is. Anytime that you have sin in your life, it's going to hurt. That fellowship that you have with Christ. [00:28:12] Speaker A: If you know about it, if you're. [00:28:13] Speaker B: Saved and if you know about it. I mean, I just remember one girl giving her testimony. She said every word in the book. Every cuss word in the book. Okay, but that was how she just got saved. But that's how she explained herself. I don't think that was a sin to her. [00:28:29] Speaker C: Right. [00:28:29] Speaker B: But it would be to me because I knew better. Well, later on she cleaned up her language. [00:28:33] Speaker C: Right. [00:28:34] Speaker B: You know, that's why I was talking about. [00:28:37] Speaker C: But I would. I would call that more of maturation than necessarily living in sin. Because you think about it, I mean, things we used to do or little. [00:28:46] Speaker A: Little. [00:28:46] Speaker C: Maybe even little attitudes, Kenny, that we used to have, or things that used to make us mad, and we get all upset. I mean, I used to get all upset about a ball, you know, if that ball didn't bounce the right way, boy, I'd be mad. If State didn't win, I'd be upset. [00:29:01] Speaker B: I'm glad you got over that Castate. Anyway. [00:29:06] Speaker C: You lose enough. You lose enough and you'll get used to it, I guess. But. But it does. I mean, I just. I refuse to let. As much as I love watching sports, I'm going to try my best to refuse to let something that I have no control over. I mean, I really have no control over whether that boy makes that shot or not. I may think I do because I'm sitting in my lucky chair with my lucky shirt and I'm eating my lucky meal and nobody's allowed to touch this, that and other. [00:29:34] Speaker B: How's that working for you? [00:29:35] Speaker C: Well, there you are. I mean, I got no. I got no championships that I've. I can't. The only team I used to have to brag about was the Yankees. And I don't know that they even gonna make the. They're in the wild card, but they ain't won the World Series in years, so I'm. But I refuse to let. Now I may be upset. Man, I hate. We lost. Now I got. And you know what upsets me more than anything else? Having to listen all the Ontario fans. [00:29:58] Speaker B: I hear you. [00:30:00] Speaker C: They ain't got nothing to brag about either. I don't say no. So we just keep it. That. We keep it on the low for everybody right now. [00:30:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:07] Speaker C: So. So. But that does make it worse. [00:30:09] Speaker B: What about now? What about the sins that you know of that you're still doing? [00:30:14] Speaker C: I think therein lies part of the. I mean, I think that's the. The big question. I mean, that's really what you got to ask. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Well, I think there's even a subcategory of that, though, because I think that there are sins that you are committing that you're unaware of. I've definitely omission and commission. Well, there's. So you got three categories maybe, is what I'm getting at. You've got some things that I think you. There were definitely some things that I didn't realize were sins until God pointed them out to me. And some of those happen, you know, six months, right Some happened two years later, some happen five years later. [00:30:48] Speaker C: There's. [00:30:49] Speaker A: There's certain things that when you're young and immature, you just don't realize are sins until you. You really study the Word and you mature in your faith a little bit. Then there are sins that you are aware of, as I was talking about last week, ones that you're aware of and trying to work on. Worry. Is that a sin? Yes. Can we make ourselves stop worrying no matter how hard we try? No, we're going to worry. I mean, that's just how we are. We're hopefully going to worry less the closer we walk with God, but we're still going to. [00:31:20] Speaker C: And worries. Use the tools that you've been given. You know, as far as the scriptures. And I think that's. That's. You're exactly right. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And that's one. There's a. There's a ton of examples of. Of those that are. You can try to work on them and you will get better at them, but that doesn't mean that you're going to be perfect at them. [00:31:40] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:40] Speaker A: And then you've obviously got the ones that are sins that you are aware of and they were in your control and you still willfully and intentionally commit them. Well, those are. [00:31:49] Speaker C: That. That. That's the one that. And I'm not saying it's. You know, the question was can you. I think you can, but I think there should be some. I mean, that's the one that really, really, for me is the. That's the tough one. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Well, this. [00:32:05] Speaker C: I mean, it's almost. If you're just. You saw the stop sign. But I'm gonna keep running it. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Right. You're aware of it, but you're still doing it. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Yep. [00:32:14] Speaker B: That's what kind of like. [00:32:15] Speaker C: Kind of like y' all keep speeding. [00:32:17] Speaker B: To a point that. Yeah. To the point that you don't feel bad about it. [00:32:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Or you don't. Consciousness. You've told yourself that and I'm good. [00:32:28] Speaker B: It ain't in the Bible. [00:32:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Or something like that. But that's what I'm talking about. [00:32:34] Speaker A: So I guess. [00:32:35] Speaker B: Not that you're committing these sins. Everybody makes mistakes, but you're indulging in them. And you've been, you know it's wrong. You've been taught it's wrong, but you're still doing it. And you are claiming you are a Christian now. I, I'm. I'm not the. God didn't give me the gift on who is and who is. But I'm saying there you know, there's nothing wrong with it, but yet it's flat in the Bible. That's. That's kind of where. That's the situation I'm talking about now that I have a situation on my mind. But I'm talking about. I get it. Somebody that has been. Yeah. Been in church all their life. Let's just say somebody's been church all their lives. And I do understand that things that have been preached again. Yeah. [00:33:21] Speaker C: And they know. [00:33:21] Speaker B: And it could be. They could be immorality type sins. Now, I know we think. We think that that is. Oh, the worst. Worst. But any sins. The worst. [00:33:32] Speaker C: This is. Well, and I think that's the thing is let's. Let's not. [00:33:35] Speaker B: We all know how Holy God, although. [00:33:37] Speaker C: You know, to some degree, Paul does kind of put some sin on a different scale as a fact. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:44] Speaker C: Because of. It affects you or who. Whoever it does. But. But at the same time, sin is sin. So let go too far on that. [00:33:51] Speaker B: And so I have to look at myself. I'm not making this point to say that my sins are. Are not as bad as someone else's, but mine don't affect someone else like some other sins. Yeah. Christians talk about other Christians all the time. Well, that's that. And do it religiously. Well, that is a big sin, but it don't. My fet there. I don't know how I should say it. It's almost like your conscious don't convict you on talking about somebody else as it does as you killing somebody. That's what I'm kind of talking about. [00:34:30] Speaker C: Well, I think it is. I think you get kind of used to it. [00:34:33] Speaker B: Well, I think we were just. We had been in it so long, we're just human. I mean, we've talked about other people and it doesn't. Just between you and I, we've talked about Garrett before he gets here. [00:34:47] Speaker A: That's right. [00:34:48] Speaker B: And I agree with you. [00:34:50] Speaker A: I probably do too. [00:34:52] Speaker B: But then talking about, you know, that type of sin, we're okay with. Right. But God is small, then that's what. Yeah. And we say that that's all right. We think in our mind, but we're really lying to ourselves because all sin, I don't know if one's telling a white lie versus, you know, any other sin, if there's any difference in God's eyes. Paul says in Romans, says, you broke one part of it, you just broke it all. And there's a lot of stuff. Right, sure. You know, if you just. The Bible tells you not to Talk about people. Well, then Bible says you're not supposed to murder. Well, if you talk about people, then you just broke everything. [00:35:36] Speaker C: I'm guilty of all. [00:35:37] Speaker A: How are we. When you ask that question again, I'm back to English class. But when you say, can you do X and still be and be a Christian, I got to kind of ask how. What's that? What's the meaning of that word? Can. If you're saying can you do it and go to heaven, are you saying can you do it? If you are. If you truly are a Christian, are you capable of still doing it? [00:36:02] Speaker C: Is it. [00:36:03] Speaker A: Should you do it and be a. One of the best ways I've heard it when somebody asked when I can I do this and still can I be a Christian and still do this or can I do this and still be a Christian? And the pastor's response to it was was the question isn't can you? [00:36:18] Speaker B: It should you? [00:36:18] Speaker A: And that's. There's that way of looking at it. Okay, if I'm a Christian, should I do X? No, I shouldn't. If I'm a Christian, can I still sin? Well, are you. Am I asking that for permission? Like, hey, I'm a Christian, but do I still have permission to do this even though it's a sin? Is it too big of a sin if I do it this way? Well, that's the wrong question. Now if you're saying is it still possible for you to can you be a Christian and still make mistakes? Well, then emphatically yes. Is it? [00:36:48] Speaker B: Well, I guess it's intent where the we all sin by me. You intentionally do it and you also. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Knowing that it's a sin in your heart you know that it's a sin, but you intentionally and you intentionally do it. And does that mean you're so it's. [00:37:04] Speaker B: Not a Christian, it's not a what you're doing. It's a heart issue now. [00:37:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I think he's getting to the yeah. As far as would a Christian continue to do that? Because again, all right, take the can you versus okay, should I or would I would a Christian continue to sin like that? Shouldn't there be a something a red flag, stop signs, things like that that says, you know what, got to quit doing this? [00:37:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I think also it's or this ain't right. Yeah, well, it. When especially newer Christians are But I think even, even seasoned Christians are going to end up falling into this trap sometimes of ranking sin a little bit. [00:37:53] Speaker B: That we do it. [00:37:54] Speaker A: And you know, I'll be Honest with you, I was not even aware that gluttony was a sin five years ago. I mean, I think I'd heard. So you know, somebody. When somebody said that seven deadly sins or whatever I heard, I was like. [00:38:06] Speaker C: What is God hates? [00:38:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I had to look it up. What is gluttony? I don't even. And I do that all the time. Or did. [00:38:13] Speaker C: I know. [00:38:14] Speaker A: It's the weirdest thing. It was like Thanksgiving last year was the first time I even thought about gluttony as like, oh, yeah, we're not supposed to do that. Well, and not only is it like, it's not just a minor one, it's in, like, it's a serious one. It's usually one of the ones that are listed, you know, as a big one. [00:38:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Proverb. Proverbs has plenty of things to say about a gluttonous man and. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Right. [00:38:34] Speaker C: You know, but we sure don't have dangerous. It is. And what. [00:38:37] Speaker A: What we should. [00:38:38] Speaker B: Does he say the seven deadly sins. [00:38:40] Speaker C: Or it's just the 7s sins God hates. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:43] Speaker C: That's where it became seven deadly sins. Seven deadly sins was added much later. Not in scriptures. [00:38:50] Speaker B: No. But added by a Catholic priest or something one time. [00:38:56] Speaker C: But it is the seven things God hates. [00:38:59] Speaker B: Yeah, but people take that as seven things God hates. God hates it all. He's just saying seven level. [00:39:06] Speaker C: If you look, that kind of encapsulates a ton of just about everything, especially pride. I mean, pride's going to capture a lot of that. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Right. [00:39:15] Speaker C: Prideful look. [00:39:17] Speaker A: But I think you can look at. There are going to be some things that I don't know if it's just the Holy Spirit works a little bit. Works on. I remember telling you one time we first started doing this thing that I was surprised at the things God had been cleaning up. Like he was working on some things I didn't think were that big of a deal. And then some of the things I thought were going to be a big deal he hadn't really tried to touch. And you said, well, he'll get back to him. And he did a lot of small things. Yeah, but some of the things that I thought were small, I didn't realize how big a problem my pride. Well, I didn't realize how big of a problem pride was, much less how big of a problem mine was. Yep. And. And then that was the by far, like, number one with blinking neon lights that he seemed to just drill on me for. For about two years. Okay. So in the process of. Of that were There some others that he didn't shine as much of a light on right away that maybe took me. I mean, Gluttony's one of them. Gluttony's one that even though I'm still trying to fight the. The weight thing, I do try to not. [00:40:13] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm not trying to myself to the. [00:40:14] Speaker A: Point where I can't move. And because it's one of those things, again, consequences. After you think about it being a sin, after I've eaten so much, it's like, man, this is why he tells you not to do. [00:40:23] Speaker C: Yeah, it hurts. Well, I. I think. [00:40:28] Speaker B: I think this. If we really knew how evil we were, it would blow our minds out. If we were able to just change all at one time, it probably kill us. We just don't know how evil we are. We just don't know how far apart we were from God and our minds probably still. [00:40:50] Speaker C: And the flip side of that, that coin, we just don't know how holy God is. [00:40:54] Speaker B: Yes. I mean, yeah. Hand in hand. Yes. It's just like. Just a tiny. Just a thought is so far away from a holy God. Evil thought, more or less. If, when you committed. We think, oh, that's. Now that's bad. But it's your thought process. Our thought process is so far out of whack. Yeah. And I think that's why we get it when we perform the act. But for some reason, we can't get it when we just. Passing thought. I'm not saying passing thought. I mean, I don't want to say passing thought is, Is a. A sin. Right. [00:41:40] Speaker C: But. But that's where it starts. And I think that's why it's so important to know all the. The other scriptures that deal with what you do with your mind. [00:41:50] Speaker B: 12, 1, 2. [00:41:51] Speaker C: Yes. If you've been born again, you've been given the mind of Christ, set your mind on the things that are above. How can a young man keep his way pure by hiding God's word in his heart and in his mind? I mean, that's, that's the key that when that, when that thought begins. Because that's exactly how you know sin. Sin begins in the book of James. It begins with that thought or that intent. That is the wrong motive or the wrong, wrong thing. And boy, our minds get locked in on it. That, oh, I want it. I got to have it. Oh, I can't take my mind off of it. Boom. [00:42:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:25] Speaker C: And instead of saying, okay, that's. That's not. That's not the best for me, yeah. God has something better for me, and something better is Christ himself. [00:42:35] Speaker B: And then Jesus says, Matthew 5:43, Be therefore perfect as your Father. [00:42:42] Speaker C: Be holy as I am holy. [00:42:45] Speaker B: It's almost like Deuteronomy. [00:42:46] Speaker C: It's all throughout. [00:42:47] Speaker B: And then he says someone asked him, you know, good teacher or whatever. I'm not sure. That might be in two or three places. And Jesus said, the only good person. [00:42:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Why you call me good? [00:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's. To me, I never really got that, but I'm starting to get what he was talking about. [00:43:05] Speaker C: There's a couple of things going on with that. That particular passage. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I always thought, well, Jesus is not good. That's not what it's talking. [00:43:13] Speaker C: That's right. You know. You know, that's. That's Jesus saying, you do understand what you just said. Yeah. And so I want you to know you. You just said what you said. You write. But I want you to understand. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:24] Speaker C: If you're calling me good, that's because you're recognizing that. That I'm on par with the Father. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I think one of the things that we have to be careful of on that. I mean, if we're. If we're asking this question internally, you know, is this a sin? Should I be doing this? That's. That's a very important. A good question to be asking. I think one of the things that we can slip into real quick on that is looking at other people and saying, they. They. I can still see pride in this person. They must not be a Christian. That's what I'm really guilty of. Because God's beat me upside the head with pride so bad. If I see somebody else acting. [00:44:01] Speaker C: They must not. Yeah, look at that. [00:44:03] Speaker A: Because in my mind, you couldn't do both at the same time and not know better. Because he'd beat me upside the head like crazy. But God might be working on a different area of them, and he'll get to the pride later. Just like you worked with me on pride first, and we'll get to the other stuff later. So sometimes you got to be careful with. With that. I think when you're looking at others. Because if you're asking the question, that's why I say, why are you at. [00:44:23] Speaker B: How are you? [00:44:24] Speaker A: How do you mean that word? Can you. If you're asking that of. I think if you're asking yourself, can I do this and still be a Christian? Might want to be safe to just quit doing it. Yeah. If you're thinking it. If you're thinking about it, there's a good chance that the Holy Spirit is trying to work that out on you. [00:44:39] Speaker C: But at the same time, there. There are. There are maybe family, friends, folks that we know that you wonder. And I'm sure that's. That's. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Yes, that's the question. [00:44:49] Speaker C: But I think you're exactly right. For myself in my own life. Yeah. I got a key. If I got to ask that, then maybe the best. If it's that much question to it. [00:45:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:00] Speaker C: Leave it. Leave it be. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Because really, you know. Really. And mostly the world, they think they're. They're good people. Everybody else is wrong. I was actually. I was listening to an interview maybe a couple weeks ago. This guy was a contract killer, and he murdered people and everything. You know, I don't know how many. There's a lot of them. And somebody asked her, said, you. I don't know what exactly he. They asked him, but he said, yeah, I'm a good person. I'm thinking, what? You got to be kidding me. Yeah. So we're all blonde. Yeah. Yeah. That was just a job. I'm a Christian hitman. Didn't you. [00:45:42] Speaker C: Yeah, that was just a job, man. When I'm off the clock, I'm a nicest guy in the world. [00:45:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:47] Speaker C: And. [00:45:48] Speaker B: And we're like that, too. That we're, you know, we. We all think of ourselves as. I do. Everybody that I know really thinks they're a good person. Well, until you realize you're not. [00:45:59] Speaker C: Yep. And we compare ourselves with other people. [00:46:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:46:01] Speaker C: It's easy to find somebody worse than me. [00:46:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:04] Speaker C: I say easy to find somebody worse than me, man. [00:46:06] Speaker B: I don't do a lot of testimonies anymore because it's almost like somebody's comparing. Well, I'm not as bad as that person. I'm pretty. Yeah. And I don't want people to get that, you know, start thinking that way. But we do. We always compare ourselves. Well, I'm not as bad as that guy. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:29] Speaker C: Or go the other way of. I'm just so much better than that person. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:34] Speaker C: I see that oftentimes that, you know, we. We can. We can have a lot of pride in our lives, not just seeing just. I'm better than that person. [00:46:42] Speaker A: Why can't they be as humble as I am, kind of? [00:46:45] Speaker B: Well, yeah. [00:46:48] Speaker C: You know, I have my big dad. [00:46:49] Speaker B: I have. I do have my fault. But I'm not as bad as he is. [00:46:54] Speaker C: That's right. [00:46:55] Speaker B: I really. [00:46:57] Speaker C: And I think it's one of. We always want to. Want to, and we can. It's not hard. Find somebody better than yourself and you're going to feel. Feel good about yourself, you know. Well, hey, I mean, what's the first thing you do when you were in high school and you bombed that test? You made a. A 60 on it. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Go through. [00:47:17] Speaker C: He made a 50. That guy made a 40. So I'm not as dumb as they are. Yeah, we. And I think that's the thing, is Christianity doesn't always have to be a comparison. The only thing you really need to compare yourself to, and this is where you're going to feel really low and it should knock out all pride, is we'll compare yourself to the standard. The standard is Christ. [00:47:38] Speaker B: But we don't. But that's the thing. We don't know. [00:47:40] Speaker C: Standard is that guy over there. [00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Or for both. [00:47:44] Speaker C: I can't believe the wrong standard. [00:47:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't believe you just said that. You know, that type of thing. [00:47:49] Speaker C: It's the incorrect standard we use, rather than your measuring stick, is Christ. [00:47:53] Speaker B: My standard is I'm using my standard on you instead of using God's standard on me. And I really think for me, I've got enough problems to worry about somebody else. I got enough problems to be talking about somebody else, you know, and we all do, you know, should. It's just sometimes it's hard to. You think about that just right off the top of your head. It just happens. Oh, yeah. That's just a thought that just comes right through. [00:48:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I wouldn't do that. I don't know what he was thinking. Yep. [00:48:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:35] Speaker C: Instead of except for the grace of God, go out. [00:48:37] Speaker B: So you got a scripture for me? [00:48:39] Speaker C: No, no, no. [00:48:40] Speaker B: I thought you were trying to. [00:48:41] Speaker C: No, I'm just looking at passage that I'm gonna have Sunday. [00:48:45] Speaker B: And what is that? [00:48:46] Speaker C: John 2:1 through 10. 1 through 11. Finally. [00:48:51] Speaker B: How many times are you gonna preach that? [00:48:54] Speaker C: As far as John 1? [00:48:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:57] Speaker C: Well, I only had. I only had four sermons out of there. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Were you making 20? [00:49:03] Speaker C: No, it was four. Are you four? Four out of the first 18 verses. And then we had a devote communion in the middle, so that's why it seems like we've been there forever. [00:49:14] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. [00:49:17] Speaker C: No, I love it. I love it. Give it to me. But John 2:1 10 is only going to be this week, I promise. [00:49:21] Speaker B: I would like to be able to talk about one scripture for a whole sermon. I would like to talk about one scripture for a whole sermon. I. I would like to hear people do that. I mean, I like people to talk about one verse. Yeah. One verse. Yeah. I say one scripture. Yeah. [00:49:39] Speaker C: Well, one. Well, it has to be a particular verse and it has to be something. I mean, usually you got to take a look at the context around it, so. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:48] Speaker C: But now we did pretty. [00:49:50] Speaker B: But you're getting close. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that was. That was the quickest outline ever, though. [00:49:55] Speaker C: I only had to fill in 14. Yeah. [00:49:57] Speaker A: One line, one word, and you got to it pretty early. [00:50:00] Speaker C: Capitalize L, O, R, D. So now you know, all you got to do is take notes. [00:50:03] Speaker A: I didn't know that though, that they were. I knew that there was capitalized Lord and non capitalized Lord, but I never paid attention to the Old Testament. I got ADD real quick there. When you said it, I started thumbing back through, trying to. [00:50:12] Speaker C: Well, that's what I was afraid of because I know I've got two or three guys that in particular. Well, it didn't take long because the shout out, he's. He's bad about it. If I give a scripture reference to the Old Testament, it's. He tells me I'm done. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. [00:50:27] Speaker C: Cause I'm going to be. You see what he's talking about? [00:50:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker C: So I hesitate sometimes to even say it. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah, well. [00:50:32] Speaker C: Or put it up on the screen so you don't have to look for it. [00:50:35] Speaker B: Well, how many you've been on, John? One through what now? [00:50:38] Speaker C: One through 18. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Okay, so you got 14 word sermons to work out on that. [00:50:44] Speaker C: Well, if you're going first by verse, that would have been one sermon. I mean, there's enough there. There's some deep. Oh, yeah, there's some deep waters you can. [00:50:51] Speaker B: John one that you can really go. Yeah. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Now, this would be a quick thing, but me and the kids were talking about this the other night, and one brought up heaven and what's heaven like? And I was telling them there's. I don't think there's a whole lot that I can recall in the Bible about the permanent new heaven and new earth. There's a lot in the. There's a little. Right. [00:51:13] Speaker C: Not. Well, even that. There's not a ton of them, but. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Even the millennial kingdom sounds pretty cool. But one of the things that I gave was saying he always thought of heaven is like you're floating around in clouds. And he pictures God as like a little blue spirit, like a little blue ball spirit type thing is what he used. He was saying when he was younger, that's how you always think of him. And I said, you know, I said, it's based on what I do know there's not a whole lot in there. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Right. [00:51:38] Speaker A: But I was kind of the same thing. We're going to float up to heaven one day and live in the clouds for eternity. But if you read the scriptures, it doesn't sound that way at all. It's. We. We have the millennium, we have the second coming in the millennial kingdom. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Right. [00:51:51] Speaker A: And then after the millennial kingdom, Satan's destroyed. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Right. [00:51:55] Speaker A: And this, I guess this came up last week. I think we're supposed to have another rapture last week, Wednesday or Thursday or something like that. And we were. Some people were talking about. [00:52:03] Speaker C: I had some folks sending me. One of you ain't checked out yet, have you? Yeah, Just joking. [00:52:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Gabe was. [00:52:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm floating in the sky. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:11] Speaker B: Well, I think the main thing about having for. For me is just because God's going to be there. [00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:17] Speaker B: I think that's what makes it. But if you can do one thing. [00:52:21] Speaker C: But, but I mean, as far as what we're going to be doing for eternity, I think. I think we're going. We're going to be serving. I think I have jobs. We're going to be praising. We're going to be living. There's houses. I've got to prepare a place for you. That's actually translated as houses or homes. I think there's going to be all kinds of different things. They'll be active and we will have bodies. But it's like won't be preaching. [00:52:45] Speaker B: I know. [00:52:45] Speaker A: Won't need to do it. [00:52:46] Speaker B: You qualified to do. [00:52:47] Speaker C: I hope I'm gonna be a singer in the after world. Because we need to work on that now. And the reason I say that is I got zero talent here. I think it's. I get to. I get. I think that's one of the gifts I get when I get there. [00:53:00] Speaker B: We need to work. [00:53:01] Speaker C: Yes. Because. Because you know what? When we get to heaven, ain't going to be. There ain't gonna be. No, they're not. They're gonna be preachers there. But there going to be no preachers preaching because you don't need to. My role will not be in heaven. You know that. [00:53:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Why is it being unemployed? [00:53:21] Speaker A: Yep. [00:53:21] Speaker C: And why is that? [00:53:23] Speaker B: Because the gospel is the books of clothes. [00:53:25] Speaker C: Well, that we shall know him as he is. Full knowledge. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:32] Speaker C: And that's part of this life we're talking about here on earth is we're growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. But one day I will know him as he is, or we see through a Mirror dimly now, but then one day face to face. So look forward to that. So to me, that's what the. [00:53:49] Speaker B: But you have a lot of work here, don't you? [00:53:51] Speaker A: Sure. [00:53:52] Speaker B: God's God's gonna probably get you through eternity. [00:53:57] Speaker C: Yep. So like I said, I don't know what I'll be doing. So I'm looking a new job when I get them, or a new role. [00:54:02] Speaker A: But it says meteorologists. [00:54:05] Speaker C: I'm hoping there's some grass to cut. I bet it's. The weather's nice. But I, But I mean, I don't know what all we're going to have to do. [00:54:11] Speaker B: Maybe a quick horse on hurricanes. [00:54:13] Speaker C: But. But I, I'm sure that it has to do with worshiping, serving, praising the Lord. I, like I said, I, I think it's going to be a beautiful, beautiful. I know it's going to be a beautiful place. It's just, you know, we're not going to be little angels with wings floating around playing a harp. And I think that's one of the things too, that I always kind of wince when I hear people say, oh, he's got his wings. He's up there flying around. I'm not so sure we get angels wings. In fact, I know for a fact we don't. [00:54:44] Speaker B: I think heaven is, you know, it's not this one little city up in the sky or one little party. So I think heaven is probably might be digging this whole universe. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Well, doesn't it say though, that we. The. [00:54:58] Speaker C: What about the new heaven and new. [00:54:59] Speaker A: That is what. That's what I'm bringing up. [00:55:01] Speaker C: It gives the dimensions of like a big city. [00:55:06] Speaker A: But that's going to descend from heaven to Jerusalem on the new Earth. But he. The Bible calls it a new heaven and new earth, and we will inherit the earth. It doesn't say we live in. We spend eternity in heaven says we inherit the new Earth. [00:55:20] Speaker C: Right. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Okay, so to me, I think it was like Earth 2.0. [00:55:25] Speaker C: Right. [00:55:25] Speaker A: I was telling Gabe this the other day, and we were on a wall kind of looking. I said, you know, that might sound kind of like, well, what's the big deal? And the earth is pretty amazing if you got rid of all the bad in it. There's just so much bad stuff, and. [00:55:36] Speaker C: We have no idea just what. How good it was. [00:55:38] Speaker A: Right. [00:55:38] Speaker C: In Genesis 1. [00:55:39] Speaker A: Right. But then it makes me. He asked me then, what's the new heaven? Because God's going to be here. What's the new heaven? I said, well, it could just be referring to there's different versions having mean different things. It could just mean new stars and universe and all that stuff. [00:55:52] Speaker B: We just don't have enough detail to really no handle on it. And then maybe we wouldn't even understand if we did. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:58] Speaker C: And I think that's one of those things of I'm just going to trust the Lord. It's going to be good. [00:56:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:03] Speaker C: Because if he can make goodness on this, this, this world, we're going to be all right in the, in one that he recreates. [00:56:11] Speaker A: If you ever have one of those moments and most people have them at some point or another where whether it's on a beach or wherever, you just thought man, I could stay here forever. [00:56:18] Speaker C: Sure. [00:56:18] Speaker A: You know, I, I imagine that it's an eternity of those types of feelings but it doesn't mean that it's got to be something that I don't. I gotta be careful where I say this. It can sound like I'm downplaying heaven. I'm not. [00:56:30] Speaker C: Right. [00:56:30] Speaker A: I'm maybe upplaying the beauty here that we overlook sometimes or take for granted sometimes. But I think that there is. I don't think it's such a far fetched way out of left field concept that we're not going to be able to wrap it like floating around as angels, spirits. And I think it's a lot more like what we're used to here but on. But without any of the math level and with God's presence here like Hawaii without sin. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Well, I know John tried to explain. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Why without saying it. [00:57:02] Speaker B: He was caught in third evidence. [00:57:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I think the, the main thing though to go back is but what makes heaven so wonderful is not going to be streets of gold. Even though we got it. It's not the pearly gates which that explains that or the onyx and the Jasper and all the pearls and jewels. No, it's being face to face with Christ and I do think it's going to be a beautiful scene being reunited with loved ones as we sing praises to the king. I think that's going to be. Man, I look forward to that day. I think the reuniting but more importantly face to face with that's what we're going to want to be doing for intern. [00:57:44] Speaker B: You're sadness there. [00:57:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Well what you. So you got John 2 this week. You got for us to close. I've got to get the kids in eight minutes so I gotta close homework assignments this week. You got any homework for us? [00:57:56] Speaker B: No. Oh yes. Google on hurricane movements. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Study up on. [00:58:05] Speaker C: Your meteorolog next week with the Earth rotations and the winds and the. [00:58:10] Speaker B: The wind speeds. [00:58:11] Speaker C: I. I am. I'm very impressed at that. But I did not know the rotation created wind. [00:58:16] Speaker B: It doesn't. It slows it down or increases it. [00:58:18] Speaker C: Well, it's got to be wind that's hitting it, though, right? [00:58:20] Speaker B: Well, it's like, you know, when you racing. [00:58:24] Speaker C: See, now you're going back to cars, and that's going to throw me off. [00:58:26] Speaker B: I know, but when you're racing all that wind, you're going the same speed, but it's cost. It's slowing you down. [00:58:34] Speaker C: Just creating draft. [00:58:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Draft. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Is it drag now we're talking about the rotation of the Earth or the jet strength, because, like, I think what you might have been going out with. [00:58:42] Speaker B: The mountain, the moving of the earth is really what it's. The earth is going this way. The Earth is going this way. Hurricanes are. [00:58:49] Speaker C: You know, it's going like that. [00:58:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted you to have this. [00:58:56] Speaker C: Are you sure? [00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:58:57] Speaker C: I think you really need to bend to enjoy this picture. Look at that. [00:59:02] Speaker B: I mean, we'll keep it. Yeah, I. I just. I just did the autograph. Yeah. [00:59:07] Speaker C: Oh, you might want to, like, take a picture of that and put it up at the end. [00:59:11] Speaker B: You can make a copy for him. [00:59:12] Speaker C: Yes. Wow. [00:59:15] Speaker A: There's one thing I want. [00:59:16] Speaker B: I signed it personally. [00:59:16] Speaker C: Kenny, Lou. [00:59:19] Speaker A: I want to give you a couple minutes before we leave. On one line, you said Sunday that I chuckled at, and then I quoted you on it, put in my notes here. You said, God isn't a cosmic killjoy. [00:59:30] Speaker C: Right. [00:59:30] Speaker A: You remember that? [00:59:30] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:59:31] Speaker A: That was as you were going through and talking about grace and. And all the. [00:59:35] Speaker C: The different things. The right picture of God having the. [00:59:37] Speaker A: Right picture of God. [00:59:38] Speaker C: Because John 1:18 says that Jesus has come to. The Greek term is exegete, which means to explain, unfold, to reveal God to us. [00:59:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I just. I love that line. God isn't a cosmic killjoy. Because I think sometimes that's kind of going back full circle to the can I do this and still be a Christian? And we look like he's trying to take away all. [01:00:01] Speaker C: He's taking away my fun. He's taking away my rights, my privileges. I want to go do this and really think about that. At the very heart of it is I want to do what I want to do. Yeah. That's that. And that's where, again, as I talked about, Christianity is not doing better or trying harder. Is dying more where it's no longer about what I want, it's about what he wants in me. And if I could get to that place where I know that what he wants in me is so much, much better than anything I could think or imagine, Ephesians 3, 20, John 10:10, that then I will know the abundant life. [01:00:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I think one thing is, you know, we live in a country of freedom to do what we want to do. [01:00:43] Speaker C: What I want, when I want, how I want. [01:00:45] Speaker B: That's not freedom, that's bondage. We're free to. We're now free to do what God wants us to do, and that's freedom. [01:00:53] Speaker C: And what is it that. That God wants us to do? Using Galatians 5, you use your freedom for love and service. [01:01:00] Speaker B: Yes. I mean that's, that's what we're made to do. [01:01:03] Speaker C: And it's almost like use your freedom to be a slave. [01:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I've seen so many people that made so much money. I mean just like, wow, they did not happen. [01:01:13] Speaker C: Usually it's electricians, Brandon. [01:01:16] Speaker A: Well, yeah, those are one side upon Bass. [01:01:21] Speaker B: I. Yeah, I didn't want to use his name but. And maybe he'll skid this week being his accountant. [01:01:29] Speaker C: You could me and his pastor. I could. [01:01:34] Speaker B: The most. [01:01:35] Speaker A: We love you, Brandon. [01:01:37] Speaker B: The most unhappy people. Happiest people that I have met. Maybe I'll. I know you go you running those rich circles, but for what I pastor money. Just so self centered and afraid that you're going to take something away from them. [01:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:55] Speaker B: We're not saying everybody, not all in. [01:01:57] Speaker C: General, but, but, but there's a rule of thumb there and usually it's the ones who don't have anything much that they give you insurance off the back and do anything for you. [01:02:07] Speaker B: I just remember when I first become a Christian we didn't have anything. Yeah. But I haven't I have anything to worry about. [01:02:16] Speaker C: You are rags to riches. [01:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Y. It just happened. But once I graduated from college you're kind of geared to. Well, you got to. [01:02:28] Speaker C: You got to go make money. [01:02:29] Speaker B: Got to make money. Yeah, that's. That's the success. But success is being happy and content. [01:02:34] Speaker A: Where you are now. [01:02:36] Speaker C: Success is obeying Christ and following. [01:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah, well that's. Yeah, that's part. I mean that is at that point you're right. And so I just remember. Well, I had to worry about a thing was paid for. Well, I'm talking about where I stayed. Electricity is paid for. I had three meals a day. [01:02:56] Speaker C: But that is the life that is ingrained. [01:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:00] Speaker C: That you have got to get out and go do this. And you gotta. Man, come on. Go. Go to school and make sure you get educated so you can make all this money. So that then what? And then do what with it? So you can sit and do nothing. That's really what I mean. You won't work yourself to death. So I can sit and do nothing? [01:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:17] Speaker C: Really. [01:03:17] Speaker B: And it comes back to greed. [01:03:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. [01:03:21] Speaker C: And. [01:03:22] Speaker B: And there's no. There's no joy in that. Yeah, I. At least it's not for me now, maybe. I mean, I know you have all. [01:03:28] Speaker C: I mean, you can have happiness. I mean, look, going out and buying the latest and greatest. I mean, I'd love to have the latest and greatest suits. I really would. [01:03:37] Speaker B: Thought you were wearing them. [01:03:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, now that you said. [01:03:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's right. [01:03:43] Speaker C: It's a deduction. [01:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:45] Speaker C: I'm probably. [01:03:46] Speaker A: You probably about 5% off next time you go shop. [01:03:49] Speaker C: Yes, sir. It's tax deduction. [01:03:51] Speaker A: My soups. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:52] Speaker C: Peace out, guys. [01:03:53] Speaker A: See you. [01:03:57] Speaker B: I think there's as many people in New York City as North Carolina. Yes, I think. Or as close to be. [01:04:04] Speaker C: I think it was Curtis blow that said, 8 million people in the naked city. There are 8 million. City, city. No. How's it go? There are 8 million stories in a naked city. But then LL came back and said, there are 8 million stories. All right. There are 8 million lies. And they're all made up by you. He wrote a song called you're a liar. You're a liar. [01:04:25] Speaker A: What day of the week is that? [01:04:26] Speaker B: Friday. [01:04:27] Speaker C: Friday night. It's right behind Living It Up. Living it Up. Oh, yeah. [01:04:31] Speaker B: Friday night, October. You're in. Yeah. There you go. So one starts with O, O, C, T, O, B, E, R. Sam.